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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57626: May 23rd 2016 at 1:27:22 PM

Yeah. EDIT: What a lame page topper tongue

edited 23rd May '16 1:27:36 PM by AlleyOop

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#57627: May 23rd 2016 at 1:49:33 PM

Ya know, as much as I doubt they'll include him in anything, part of me wishes Black Knight could appear.

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hollygoolightly Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#57628: May 23rd 2016 at 1:50:04 PM

Regarding the casting call: didn't his reps already say John Boyega wasn't going to be in BP? Yet this thing lists him. And I don't know if they are really going to be throwing this many villains at T'Challa in his first movie, seems a bit like overkill. ETA: Also, read Klaue's character description. We know from Civil War that he didn't kill T'Chaka. This is at least odd.

edited 23rd May '16 1:51:42 PM by hollygoolightly

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57629: May 23rd 2016 at 1:52:50 PM

It's pretty fake sounding. For one, that is way too many characters for his first movie and specifically, too many villains. It reads like someone just did a Wiki search on Black Panther's supporting cast and rogues gallery and then just listed off all their names.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57631: May 23rd 2016 at 2:17:22 PM

Did Black Knight do much in the comics? I know he was a recurring member of the Avengers back in the 60's or so, but did he do anything of note?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#57632: May 23rd 2016 at 2:22:26 PM

Isn't there an adopted brother in the comics that calls himself White Wolf? He'd probably be a good Starter Villain to show the unrest in Wakanda.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#57633: May 23rd 2016 at 2:27:22 PM

If they keep White Wolf the same he might be a little too similar to Loki for them to go down that route.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57634: May 23rd 2016 at 2:27:23 PM

[up][up][up]Kind of. He became a straight-up active Avenger in the mid 80's, though he was still more or less a supporting character there who didn't get much of anything to do besides swing his sword around, and that's when he actually had a sword. It was only in the 90's where he finally came into his own, becoming the de-facto leader of the Avengers and getting a big storyline with him at the center, involving a destructive love-triangle with the Inhuman Crystal and the Eternal Sersi, as well as a Big Bad who turned out to be an alternative version of him from a parallel universe. He's barely a blip on the radar these days, but back then, he was hot stuff, at least as far as the Avengers were concerned.

Come to think of it, that whole arc was pretty darn good. It wasn't exactly traditional Avengers material, but it was still well done for what it was, and helped get the Avengers out of the slump it was in. They should really collect the whole thing one of these days.

edited 23rd May '16 2:29:48 PM by kkhohoho

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#57635: May 23rd 2016 at 2:31:12 PM

Didn't he have some kind of cursed armor or something that nearly made him become a bloodthirsty murderer?

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57636: May 23rd 2016 at 2:33:35 PM

[up]That too, though it was actually a cursed sword. He got better. tongue

edited 23rd May '16 2:34:29 PM by kkhohoho

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#57637: May 23rd 2016 at 2:33:58 PM

He had a cursed Ebony Sword?

And later a lightsaber

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57638: May 23rd 2016 at 2:35:30 PM

[up]Yeeup. Though it was more of a lightlance, if I remember correctly.

edited 23rd May '16 2:35:40 PM by kkhohoho

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#57639: May 23rd 2016 at 2:42:51 PM

I kinda hope they'll put Black Knight into a future Avengers film, then. Maybe something after Infinity War.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#57641: May 23rd 2016 at 3:05:12 PM

Isn't there an adopted brother in the comics that calls himself White Wolf? He'd probably be a good Starter Villain to show the unrest in Wakanda.

White Wolf is a kinda-sorta good guy, so him showing up as a villain wouldn't be a great idea (from what I know of him, he's a good-aligned Knight Templar who's resentful to T'Challa but still super loyal to him).

Then again, they did the same sort of thing with Kurse, so who knows.

edited 23rd May '16 3:05:56 PM by KnownUnknown

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#57642: May 23rd 2016 at 3:38:39 PM

Doctor Strange has Baron Mordo in a more heroic role so having an antagonist that isn't a straight villain doesn't seem like that bad of an idea.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#57643: May 23rd 2016 at 4:08:39 PM

If you ask me, the ideal villain for a Black Panther flick is Ulysses Klaw (representing the western Imperialism over African countries) and M'baku. He's a Proud Warrior Race Guy Blood Knight traditionalist seeking to throw back Wakanda to its primitive. If Klaw represents the western Imperialism vulturing over African nations, M'baku could actually be a pretty great metaphor for the own traditionalist religious fundamentalists, warlords and backwards factions in African politics

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57644: May 23rd 2016 at 4:13:16 PM

Quick question: are the rights to Kang the Conqueror tied up with Fox now?

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#57646: May 23rd 2016 at 4:18:08 PM

Damn. I was hoping they'd use Kang after Infinity War or something.

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#57647: May 23rd 2016 at 4:54:54 PM

[up]That's one reason why I want Marvel to get the FF rights back. I still care about the FF, but there are also many great characters that Marvel can't use just because they're tied up with the FF, and Kang is one of them. Even if Marvel never made a FF movie, (though I'd really want them to,) getting Kang and all of those other characters like Galactus and the Surfer would be reason enough to get the rights back.

edited 23rd May '16 5:17:59 PM by kkhohoho

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#57648: May 23rd 2016 at 5:03:25 PM

True. I really hope they figure out the rights.

Now, a different question: would you like it if they introduced Bill Foster in Ant-Man and The Wasp? I don't know much about the character other than basically being a cross between Hank Pym and Luke Cage (and that Foster died in Civil War thanks to the Clone Thor).

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flameboy21th The would-be novelist from California Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#57649: May 23rd 2016 at 5:16:34 PM

I'm just hoping Hank doesn't get sidelined considering Ant-Man's ending.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#57650: May 23rd 2016 at 5:17:21 PM

Depends. Doesn't Ant-Man and the Wasp come out after the first part of Infinity War?

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