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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57551: May 21st 2016 at 2:06:44 PM

So if Odin isn't dead I wonder where he's been for the last 4 years.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#57553: May 21st 2016 at 3:08:51 PM

He's been taking part in a LARP for four years, but hasn't yet realised that it's fiction.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57554: May 21st 2016 at 4:43:30 PM

Just came back from watching Civil War. HOLY SHIT, that airport fight scene! One of my favorite MCU movies. Above all except the two Avengers, and challenging Avengers 1 for 2nd place.

Completely unrelated, if they were to make another Hulk movie, who would you want as the villains/new characters? Personally, if it has to take place on Earth, I'd go with introducing She-Hulk (who would serve a deuteragonist role in the movie, and then get her own Netflix series afterwards). For the villains I'd have Hammer and Anvil: super obscure Silver Age villains, I'd recommend their introductory Hulk comic: Hammer's father and his dynamic with Hulk and his own son is really good writing. The villains themselves are comedy gold: two utterly reprehensible criminals, one a Scary Black Man, the other a Deep South racist redneck, forced to be tethered together with an nigh-indestructible metal rope that gives tham super strength and endurance, forcing them to fight as a team. Obviously, these two jokers can't carry a movie by themselves (I mean, they could, but they're so minor that it'd be a waste), so have Red Hulk as the final boss with The Leader as the Bigger Bad.

BTW, I'm trying to catch up on the last 50 pages since that's when I bowed out of the thread to avoid Civil War spoilers, so I won't be super responsive.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#57555: May 21st 2016 at 4:54:37 PM

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With the main antagonist being Hela, I certainly wouldn't rule out Odin having an important role in the movie in spite of being dead.

[up] I think if they do make a Hulk movie, some variation of Planet Hulk is actually fairly probable. The fact is the Incredible Hulk was the least successful movie in the MCU, so it makes sense that any hypothetical sequel will go in a radically different direction. In addition now that we have a decent cast list for Thor: Ragnorok, it's safe to say that it's not going to be a Planet Hulk movie that is nominally a Thor movie for legal reasons.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#57556: May 21st 2016 at 5:24:18 PM

Would Planet Hulk be easier or harder than a normal Hulk movie? What I mean is, one of the big problems with the Hulk is that he's expensive to CG-in among the live-action actors. Would a Planet Hulk movie be basically all CG, and thus cheaper?

Writing a post-post apocalypse LitRPG on RR. Also fanfic stuff.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57557: May 21st 2016 at 5:26:31 PM

A Planet Hulk movie would be dumb to do, in my opinion. I wanna see Banner and the Hulk, not only the Hulk.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#57558: May 21st 2016 at 5:46:31 PM

[up] When I say "Planet Hulk movie" I am only speaking in extremely broad terms. Almost anything beyond Hulk fighting in an arena on an alien world is changeable and it would still be a "Planet Hulk" movie.

Sort of like how the Civil War movie changed the fundamental nature of the conflict between Captain America and Iron Man from the comics, but it was still called "Civil War".

So while a Planet Hulk movie would probably explore the idea of the Hulk being a distinct individual from Banner, that doesn't mean Banner wouldn't have a role in the movie.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57559: May 21st 2016 at 5:48:27 PM

True. I mostly wanna see the Leader come back, or hell get another villain like the Maestro or something.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57560: May 21st 2016 at 6:43:15 PM

Civil War needed to be drastically changed from the source material though, because the comic was terrible.

There's nothing majorly awful about the Planet Hulk comic that warrants a similar level of altering, you'd just need to change how Hulk leaves Earth. I'd rather the story not be used at all if it can't be adapted near-properly.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57561: May 21st 2016 at 6:58:32 PM

A Planet Hulk movie would be far preferable to one set on Earth, but if it is on Earth, I have a certain fondness towards Hammer and Anvil. I really do recommend their starting story in Silver Age Hulk; they have possibly the funniest backstory of any Marvel villain ever, and the drama with Hammer's father is really well-written, even if the character is a tad dated.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57562: May 21st 2016 at 7:46:48 PM

I have a strong feeling they will use parts of Planet Hulk in Ragnarok.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#57563: May 21st 2016 at 7:58:09 PM

[up] While I haven't completely written that off, I think it's very important to keep in mind that this is almost certainly going to be a Thor movie that Hulk happens to be in. So while there might be a nod to Planet Hulk somewhere in there, it will likely be subtle enough to avoid closing that particular door in the future.

Overall, ever since the Hulk was confirmed to be in Ragnorok, a lot of the speculation has gone in the direction of "This movie going to be Planet Hulk dressed up as a Thor movie", which I feel is a very wrong way of viewing things.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#57564: May 21st 2016 at 8:05:05 PM

I suspect at the end of Ragnarok Hulk will be in a position to get a Planet Hulk mini-arc in Infinity War Part I.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#57565: May 21st 2016 at 8:15:22 PM

Personally, even though Planet Hulk is my favourite Marvel comic of all time, assuming its adaptation gets saved for a Hulk solo movie, I'd prefer they adapt Future Imperfect first.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#57566: May 21st 2016 at 8:45:03 PM

Okay, after reviewing and giving myself a reality check, Hammer and Anvil's initial appearance wasn't as well-written as I remember. The general story does have potential to be good, though; it just REALLY needs to be updated.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#57567: May 22nd 2016 at 2:54:59 AM

All Marvel movies so far have been drastically changed from the source material, even the origin stories. And I am totally okay with this. They take the best elements of the comics and create something new.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#57568: May 22nd 2016 at 5:01:59 AM

I bet Grandmaster owns an arena que Hulk fighting in it. Planet Hulk solved for a brief moment... this is more like Galaxy Hulk since he goes across space

edited 22nd May '16 5:02:58 AM by FictionWriterKing

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57569: May 22nd 2016 at 9:36:06 AM

Indeed. Having people fight for his amusement is kinda his whole jam.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#57570: May 22nd 2016 at 9:45:30 AM

Ooh, can we get Contest of Champions out of this? Yes please!

Oh my god, I just realized that the first Contest of Champions is a result of a wager between the Grandmaster and Death (which Hela could be in place of), so this movie could technically be an adaptation of that + Simonson's Ragnarok story. Heh. That would be hilarious.

edited 22nd May '16 9:46:44 AM by alliterator

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#57571: May 22nd 2016 at 10:15:24 AM

I just watched the show Magicians. Seriously how they use their hands for magic is what Dr strange needs to show off

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#57572: May 22nd 2016 at 12:29:06 PM

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Just imagining this kind of thing for Infinity War:

Tony: Steve I had been hoping we'd meet up again like this, fighting to the death on a giant chessboard.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#57573: May 22nd 2016 at 3:59:37 PM

Ya know, there's one thing about Thor: The Dark Lord that's pretty awesome: that entire scene of Thor plotting with his pals on basically committing treason in order to stop Malekith, with the scenes alternating between the plotting and the plan in action.

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yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#57574: May 22nd 2016 at 4:57:59 PM

[up][up][up] I'm hoping to see a wider range of movements.

Crow: There's a plot?
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#57575: May 22nd 2016 at 7:49:13 PM

I also liked Thor The Dark World.

I mean, I didn't even care about there being too much Loki, and thought Malekith was fine.

So I guess I'm the odd man out again.

That's fine. Handsome Rob is a rebel who plays by his own rules. Y'all can't handle me anyway.cool

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