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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It's apples to oranges. All she proves is that S.H.I.E.L.D. is willing to consider "powers" as stupid as self-applied knife-fingers worthy of being Indexed. The problem is, nothing about Kilgrave being under the radar has anything to do with S.H.I.E.L.D. thinking that mind control powers are too mundane to bother with. It has everything to do with Kilgrave's flavor of mind control being impossible to prove beyond rumor and heresay, 90% of which never even gets said anyway.
Absolutely, if S.H.I.E.L.D. had police reports and news reports and loads of evidence that a man is running around controlling minds, they would do the same thing they did with Karla and hunt him down. If Kilgrave was running into every police station going, "Every cop in the world, shoot yourself in the brain!" over and over or something similarly public, they would be all over him like a pack of dogs on a three-legged cat.
But he's not. The most public he ever got was a "hilarious joke" in a police station that nobody's going to be thinking twice about in 12 hours when his influence wears off. The problem isn't that they don't care. The problem is that they don't know. S.H.I.E.L.D. investigates facts, not urban legends and superstitions.
There are too many rumors in the world to dedicate a team of specialists to investigate each and every one.
edited 19th May '16 1:40:06 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.there was a New York Bulletin in the last episode of Ao S....which is why the show is so important, it ties everything together.
Except at the very least as a kid, he was probably doing very noticeable things. And it's not like he could turn it on and off either, as he himself says. I doubt a child had the patience to slowly train himself to say things so he was only ever controlling people he wanted to, that would have come later.
I just find it very hard to believe someone with as noticeable a power as Killgrave avoided SH.I.E.L.D's notice when c-list fodder does not. And yes, it is noticeable, he can't just tell people to forget about what he does to them and he's left quite a trail of bodies behind him. Someone would have spoken up, even if only on the Internet.
Oissu!edited 19th May '16 1:48:46 PM by alliterator
We're back to arguing about the fact that the different mediums don't interact? Look, not everyone with Netflix has access to or interest in AOS and vice-versa. Furthermore the events of DD and JJ so far have been low key enough to slip under the radar. Nothing the Hand, Kilgrave, or Fisk have done is worth getting the Avengers or Shield involved. The lack of continuity between AOS and the movies is a bit harder to justify but I'm not too bothered. Sure they could put Daisy or another Inhuman in Civil War but AOS has its own plot going on concurrently.
No, a rumor that there may or may not exist somewhere in the world a person who sometimes causes people to do things they might have wanted to do anyway, you can't prove they didn't, is not worth S.H.I.E.L.D.'s time. Again: there are a million rumors in the world.
edited 19th May '16 2:34:01 PM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I supoose I misspoke. Kilgrave and The Hand are worth their time but Shield has no knowledge of them. Theoretically they could have found out at some point but it's not too weird that they didn't. By contrast they might have some knowledge of Fisk but he's not a direct threat to national safety so there's no reason to investigate him.
edited 19th May '16 2:40:38 PM by Kostya
Or you all can stop pretending that the response to Killgrave is anything other than the arbitrary whims of the writers.
Maybe Killgrave is a stupid fuck who'd leave too big of a trail to not be found out and captured/killed. Maybe not. Either way of thinking only validates what you arbitrarily want to believe because it fits into your preconceived biases of whether you think it makes sense or not, there's no real way of proving it because it's all stupid make-believe.
The point is that we are trying to find more reasonable explanations for why SHIELD never investigated Kilgrave or the Hand.
Ekuran, calm the hell down.
Complaining (and in such a hostile manner) about us discussing a character or a show comes off douchy and moronic, specially because this is TV Tropes and that's what we are supposed to be doing here. Like, come on, this ain't 4chan.
Anyways, back on the Kilgrave topic. I sincerely don't see Kilgrave doing anything to gain SHIELD's attention. Going by what we saw in Jessica Jones, most of the time he just indulges in petty crimes (without he himself being directly involved) like stealing and stuff. He also mind controls and either rapes or abuses people, but I don't see his victims denouncing him for thst because, let's face it, nobody would believe them.
I reckon he's little more than a baseless rumour.
edited 19th May '16 4:43:22 PM by ExplosiveLion
Said psychics probably did something to warrant attention. Here's the thing, Kilgrave's powers,not his actions, warrant Shield's attention. If they knew about him then he would absolutely be brought in and controlled. However nothing he does in JJ would put him on their radar. Heck, his big plan for the season is to emotionally torture one woman. He's a malicious prick but he isn't a significant threat.
Yeah, from what we see of him, he seems to try to make a point of keeping a low profile. (Doesn't he specifically mention that he never even appears on camera if he can help it?) There was, of course, the bit where he forces a station full of cops to hold guns to each other's heads, but he's sure to inform them that it was all just a hilarious prank afterwards.
"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."Some his known acts would be kidnapping, home invasion, assisted suicide, petty larceny, and probably a few others. Basically what I'm trying to say is while he does cover some of his actions, we see he doesn't bother with all. If we take a look at, let's say, the 10-15 years since he got his powers can you really say he wouldn't do anything to attract attention based on what we've seen from him?

She has knives for fingers, she did that to herself. Why is S.H.I.E.L.D even involved with her? She should have just gotten thrown in regular prison. Or you know, cut off her fingers then throw her in regular prison. Yes, it's a provable event, but if S.H.I.E.L.D is so vigilant they want to deal with c-list villains like that I'm pretty sure they'd have the diligence to follow up surprisingly similar rumours about a British guy able to mind control people.
It's been a while since I've seen any AOS though, sorry. I thought she'd only killed her boyfriend before being arrested.
Oissu!