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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57226: May 17th 2016 at 4:55:40 PM

They're completely different divisions. Marvel has no say in the scheduling of the TV show. It's being moved to a different time slot because it's had horrible ratings this year, which is again, a factor the movie division has no control over.

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#57227: May 17th 2016 at 5:02:00 PM

They say that they wanna make the show darker or something? I dunno, I feel that it's getting close to the end for the show, and while I'll be sad to see it go, I just hope they wrap it up properly instead of leaving it on a fucking cliffhanger with no resolution (friggin' Agent Carter).

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#57228: May 17th 2016 at 5:16:37 PM

They're suggesting the later time slot will allow them to get away with "edgier" content.

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#57229: May 17th 2016 at 5:17:18 PM

Well they get away with enough already.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57230: May 17th 2016 at 5:22:23 PM

Not much left they could do, as far as edgy content is concerned.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#57231: May 17th 2016 at 7:05:38 PM

Their words not mine.

Speaking to press today, ABC president Channing Dungey said SHIELD's move to a later timeslot will allow them "to go a little bit edgier, go a little darker and take some risks."

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#57232: May 17th 2016 at 7:06:51 PM

I saw that, and it's still pretty dumb to say that when the show has had several on-screen graphic deaths, one of which was so bad that they bumped up the rating to TV-14.

edited 17th May '16 7:07:43 PM by AdricDePsycho

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#57233: May 17th 2016 at 7:21:50 PM

I don't remember anything on the show that ever really pushed things.

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#57234: May 17th 2016 at 7:23:59 PM

The episode airing right now had someone cauterizing someone's wound with a blowtorch.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#57235: May 17th 2016 at 7:25:16 PM

Kay, that's not really pushing anything.

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#57236: May 17th 2016 at 7:27:20 PM

Fair enough.

Well the episode with Skye's mom getting dissected by a Hydra agent was pretty fucked up. It got the rating bumped up to TV-14.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#57237: May 17th 2016 at 8:16:58 PM

Not to mention the graphic scene of Coulson's brain being rewritten as he begged to be killed in season one.

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#57238: May 17th 2016 at 8:19:02 PM

Or that whole scene of Coulson being tortured in Season 1 by Centipede. Or pretty much all of Ward's stuff. Or Hive's incredibly graphic murders of people.

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#57239: May 17th 2016 at 8:27:39 PM

The death of Gideon Malick.

Killed via being crushed by sonic waves.

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#57240: May 17th 2016 at 8:28:33 PM

Yeah, that was pretty fucked up.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#57241: May 17th 2016 at 8:34:58 PM

I mean, there was a bit of a Gory Discretion Shot, but we saw enough.

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#57242: May 17th 2016 at 8:36:19 PM

I kinda wish the show was a Netflix original just so we could see that shot in gorier detail.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#57243: May 17th 2016 at 8:38:29 PM

On a less gory but no less screwed up note, Lorelei brainwashing and raping Ward.

Unfortunately, unlike with Purple Man, all of the women on the ship immediately blamed the men for what she did to them. [tdown]

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#57244: May 17th 2016 at 8:39:53 PM

Yeah, that was really early on in the show...ugh, I hated that. Lorelei was a cool villain, but god did I hate that moment.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#57245: May 17th 2016 at 8:42:01 PM

[up]I'm sad to say I stopped watching after that episode. I'm sure the show got better, but it wasn't my cup of tea earlier, and that just disgusted me. YMMV.

Arrow's handling of Mind Rape wasn't any better.

Thank God for Jessica Jones handling it better than either of them. [tup]

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#57246: May 17th 2016 at 8:50:28 PM

You missed out on a lot, then.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#57247: May 17th 2016 at 8:52:48 PM

[up]Yeah, I know. But that was my preference. If you all enjoy it, more power to you. [tup]

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#57248: May 17th 2016 at 8:53:45 PM

Eh, it's alright. I really need to get to watching Jessica Jones sometime.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#57249: May 17th 2016 at 9:04:12 PM

[up]It's on Netflix. You might want to make yourself comfortable. The episodes can be pretty long. tongue

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#57250: May 17th 2016 at 9:05:12 PM

I'll have to find the time to watch it. I've still gotta get back to watching Daredevil (which at this point I'll probably have to rewatch the first episodes of Season 1).

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