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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Especially since he'd then promptly toss the people standing in front of him out of the way.
Magnetism motherfuckers!
One Strip! One Strip!
Couldnt he just, ya' know, use his powers on all the cars and actual guns the police brought?
Or rip the iron out of everybody's blood?
edited 16th May '16 7:08:20 PM by TheAirman
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Well, that was stupid. Kinda funny though.
Man. Even Magneto is shaking his head at how dumb he was for falling for that.
I mean, if Reed had clubbed him in the face afterwards, then maybe I'd be ok, and they then kept him sedated the whole time.
edited 16th May '16 7:28:30 PM by HandsomeRob
One Strip! One Strip!Figured you'd hate that.
Still, is your hatred of it based on context, or do you hate it on principle?
Because while sometimes is compromise necessary, sometimes I really do think you need to take a stand, and I think it's hard to argue that Peggy Carter's struggles against sexism don't qualify.
edited 16th May '16 8:10:41 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!I hate it on principle. While, again, it's not quite as bad in the movie, and using it as a feminist statement is nice (if, perhaps, a little hollow coming from Marvel Studios), the idea that compromise is abhorrent is fucking disgusting, especially in our current political climate.
It frankly made it really hard for me to side with Cap, overall.
edited 16th May '16 8:12:01 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.In Agent Carter going "no, you move" and/or shoving people out of her way (literally as well as metaphorically, sometimes) when it comes down to doing the right thing is basically the MO she's forced to take in her environment, so even without the context of the line it works because it makes total sense that she would say it.
edited 16th May '16 8:11:16 PM by KnownUnknown
Well, it kind of comes across at face value as the kind of thing a crazy Tea Partier would say
◊. I would note that the quote does refer to doing what is right even if mobs (not just government/"establishment" figures) say otherwise, so it could be read as an endorsement of civil disobedience along the lines of Martin Luther King Jr.
But yes, I see how the seeming inherent opposition to compromise in the quote makes it come across the wrong way- like it kind of sounds like the comment of someone who distrusts everyone rather than someone reacting to a specific injustice.
edited 16th May '16 8:15:24 PM by Hodor2
To be clear: there are times where you should not compromise. Everyone should have equal rights. No one should die of lack of resources. Egg salad should never have green onion in it.
But the "no, you move" speech is about how you should never compromise ever forever, even if the entire fucking world is telling you you're wrong, and that's the mentality that's making it so hard to get shit done these days.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.@Wackd: I get what you're saying, but a lot of it does seem contextual, because I do think there are cases when compromising might be considered a bad thing.
What do you think would be better for this sort of situation?
Edit: NVM, you already answered my question.
edited 16th May '16 8:21:50 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!![]()
And where does it actually say that compromise is completely and absolutely a bad thing? Just because Cap didn't end his speech with 'Mind you, there are times where one should move, but NOT TODAY!', doesn't mean that he's completely unwilling to do so if the situation required it. Heck, if he felt the situation did require it, he'd probably give an entirely different speech along those lines. But as far as Cap was concerned, CWI was a situation where he needed to stand up for what he believed and that compromising wasn't the solution, hence him giving the 'No, you move' speech. Whereas if circumstances were different, he might actually say 'But sometimes, you gotta' move,' but that just wasn't the case. I still understand why you're taking it issue with it, but I don't think it's as absolute on 'NO COMPROMISES, EVER!', as you're making it out to be.
Like.
I feel like any sexist git who wanted to justify keeping Peggy out of world politics could just parrot her words back at her. Now, while she's obviously not obligated to justify herself to that sort of person, I can't feel that any argument would be better than one that accepts stubbornness as an end unto itself.
Like, if he said "This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we give everyone a voice in government", you would not think "well, I'm sure he'd agree homophobes shouldn't vote on marriage equality."
edited 16th May '16 8:36:49 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I'd say marriage equality should probably not be a voting thing in general.
But that's a conversation for another thread.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Fair enough. I suppose I just consider voting rights to be important as well.
But that's getting off-topic.
So...anyone have any suggestions of where the Captain Marvel movie should go?
I personally really liked the "Enemy Within" arc, but that's probably best reserved for a sequel.
Oh God! Natural light!
Not even Avengers#200? I always considered that a keeper myself.
edited 16th May '16 9:40:55 PM by kkhohoho
*Looks up what happened in Avengers #200...*
What. The. Hell.
edited 16th May '16 10:01:14 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.

I didn't even know the context when I first heard of it anyway. Even in that
scenario, I would have found it awesome. Most definitely not heroic, of course, but awesome none the less.
edited 16th May '16 4:35:46 PM by dRoy
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