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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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Could be, though it was a big part of White Wolf's character that he was visibly foreign. Whereas true, African Americans are not the same as native Africans, and a lot of them have mixed ancestry, but Michael B. Jordan can pass as a Wakandan native much more easily.
The concept as with a lot of the way Wakanda is portrayed is a mishmash of pan-African "jungle" stereotypes that they're going to have to be careful with the way they go about updating Wakanda to get it out of its past pulp sensibilities. So far Civil War did well with its portrayal of the Wakandans though, and there's a lot of potential for Afrofuturism Scenery Porn out the wazoo.
edited 13th May '16 4:30:13 PM by AlleyOop
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Given that Ryan Coogler
is writing & directing Black Panther, I hope they can avoid trappings like that.
edited 13th May '16 4:39:37 PM by hollygoolightly
M'baku as a Wakandan military leader of some kind sounds likely.
M'baku fills a fairly essential villain slot as "traditionalist Wakandan leader who dislikes T'challa's practices and wants to return things to the way they were before him and/or his father," which is an important role to have given the storyline T'challa has upon becoming king - he's Wakanda's only major internal antagonist.
And it's be really easy to do him while just eschewing all the Unfortunate Implications.
edited 13th May '16 4:43:39 PM by KnownUnknown
5 Not really. All deities are true in the MU, so two African Gods, Bast and Gherka, actually exist. From context, I get the impression that the Gherka is native to Wakanda (and more generally the Great Lakes region) whereas the Panther God/Bast is an import from the North, as adapted to local tales and traditions. Bast is based on the Ennead of the same name. If we look outside MU lore then Gherka is closet to Toth. However, Gherka is an enemy of Bast within MU lore. The Jabari tribe, who are native to Wakanda, worship the sliver apes residing in the Crstal Forest, the coldest area of Wakanda. They wear clothing reminiscent of Lapp. T'achaka outlawed Wakandas to practice any religion involving Gherka, renouncing this God has to convert over to Bast. After Klaw killed him, the tribe rose up to worship their God again, which led to an all out civil war when others heard about it.
Overall there's some mythological aspect to Wakanda that's treated as as historical part of the MU. The made up belief system doesn't sound stereotypical. It's just not detailed as it could be. How does one adapt this to the MCU well
edited 13th May '16 4:59:22 PM by FictionWriterKing
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Depending on the Writer the movies eschew the use of the names a lot too. I'm trying to remember, did they call Wanda Scarlet Witch at all in the films so far?
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A character like that would also fit in well with the situation how it presents itself after Civil War - opening up to the world promptly let to the King being murdered and his inexperienced son taking the throne - a traditionalist/isolationist would likely see his point of view verifiedand might believe T'Challa to be easily out-maneouvred.
IIRC, they can't call Wanda Scarlet Witch because of rights issues? Same like she can't be Magneto's daughter.
edited 13th May '16 4:49:45 PM by hollygoolightly
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Basically. Have him be emphasized as a general or a warrior.
In fact, a really cool way to homage the original concept while not falling into the Unfortunate Implications, would be to have him brag about once fighting and killing a White Ape himself and then took its skin, as a way of proving his strength and ability to take action or something while accusing T'Challa of being weak and complacent. We could even see the skin on his wall at some point, if we see M'Baku's home or office or something.
To which T'Challa notes that that sort of thing is exactly why M'Baku's way would be horrible and destructive.
But for villains in general, I really want to see Moses Magnum.
edited 13th May '16 4:53:21 PM by KnownUnknown
Okay so I tried to figure what was going on with the whole black people and monkeys thing and...
Oh.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
Words cannot describe how sorry I am that I didn't catch on all of that.
