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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#56951: May 13th 2016 at 10:03:08 AM

Yeah, it's been pretty clear for a while now that the Studio does not now, nor will it ever care about the show. It began as Joss Whedon's pet project and kept going because it already existed and was well enough liked. Its relationship with the films is entirely one-sided; it does a tie-in every time a movie comes out, but the movies refuse to acknowledge it in any way.

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#56952: May 13th 2016 at 10:03:19 AM

What I mean is that I loved that it was pretty much this small story in a bigger universe, and if it gets made non-canon, that small story wouldn't even be there anymore. Yeah, the movies never reference it, but I didn't want them to. I was just grateful for it being in the same universe.

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#56953: May 13th 2016 at 10:05:45 AM

I guess I'm confused. Even if Agents of SHIELD gets cancelled, why would that mean it was non-canon?

Wouldn't that just mean that it would just end and the movies would continue to not reference it? There's no reason for Marvel to even take the effort to declare it non-canon.

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#56954: May 13th 2016 at 10:06:36 AM

I guess I'm just paranoid.

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#56955: May 13th 2016 at 10:06:54 AM

They would only declare it non-canon if they wanted to contradict elements from it. Such as what the show did with the Inhumans, for example.

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#56956: May 13th 2016 at 10:07:18 AM

Which at this point god only knows if they'll do an Inhumans movie.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#56957: May 13th 2016 at 10:25:00 AM

Why do people don't get that? What Agents of Shield is doing is not really Inhumans, it's the Secret Warrior storyline. They just - with Marvel's blessing - use a group of lesser well known characters who used to have powers because they were either mutants (but not x-men) or children of powered heroes and villains, and used the Inhuman gene to explain where all the powers are suddenly coming from in an universe in which heroes popped up fairly recently. The Inhumans movie would, I assume, be about a group of those people who built up their own society and were isolated for ages.

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#56958: May 13th 2016 at 10:25:10 AM

None of Agents of SHIELD happened, it's fictional.

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#56959: May 13th 2016 at 10:31:26 AM

Oh, well then in that case who gives a shit about anything, it's all fictional so who cares?

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#56960: May 13th 2016 at 10:33:09 AM

RE: Emily Blunt as Captain Marvel fan art: Where's this on tumblr? Because I so want to Heart it like crazy.

RE: Twitter post of Jason Alexander: Ummmmm, that's a joke, right? Because I don't know how serious I'm suppose to take it...

RE: Hundreds of spoiler blocks: So...many...spoilers. Must...see...Civil War...ASAP. But...I....kinda promised...that I'd see...the Ratchet & Clank movie...first. Actually, I'm sorry R&C guys.

But I think I'll stick to watching it on Netflix or something, because the allure of Civil War is too great to resist for a long period of time.

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#56961: May 13th 2016 at 10:33:57 AM

Of course Jason Alexander playing Uncle Ben is a joke. It's a Seinfeld reference.

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#56962: May 13th 2016 at 10:37:30 AM

@Lupita Nyong'o: I'd really like it if she played Shuri. It's a role that could go between being both supporting and major depending on how the plots go, with them ultimately co-ruling Wakanda and sharing the role of Black Panther.

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#56963: May 13th 2016 at 10:40:11 AM

Marisa Tomei, who plays Aunt May in Civil War, appeared in Seinfeld as herself. Jason Alexander played George Costanza on the show, who courted Marisa Tomei. Hence the joke.

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#56964: May 13th 2016 at 10:41:50 AM

@Adric De Psycho13th

Dude, relax. Nobody has ever said the show is being made non-canon. I don't know why you keep bringing that up.

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#56965: May 13th 2016 at 10:50:38 AM

I don't understand what's to lose from the show being non-canon honestly. The things Adric likes about it don't seem to be related to continuity in the first place.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#56966: May 13th 2016 at 10:54:03 AM

You can't let fiction boss you around like that. If you want it to count, it counts. That simple.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#56967: May 13th 2016 at 10:56:41 AM

[up][up]

I like that it fits into the world of the MCU.

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FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#56968: May 13th 2016 at 11:00:25 AM

AOS exist within the MCU, applying content directly from events, plots whatever you want to call them, that first transpired in films and outside of them onto several of its conflicts. Just because Coulson has yet to pop in a film again doesn't mean you should ignore AOS. It fleshes the side these films have yet to show or only briefly touched upon just like AC did in the past. If You can accept Peggy Carter popping up 30 years later next to Hank Pym on the big screen then why not Coulson dealing with Kree, Inhumans, and hydra? Because it's not on the big screen? BS

So Mavel TV is only canon if movie directors use characters or content from it? It only has importance if movie again movie directors use characters or content from it? BS.

edited 13th May '16 11:08:03 AM by FictionWriterKing

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#56969: May 13th 2016 at 11:01:47 AM

Some of the Christine Everhart news segments for Civil War had stuff from AOS on the ticker, like the ACLU explosion.

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#56971: May 13th 2016 at 11:05:00 AM

Are there any talk on civil war deleted acenea

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#56972: May 13th 2016 at 11:08:13 AM

Going to watch Civil War this afternoon.

Watching the 13th MCU movie, on Friday the 13th, this should be good.

edited 13th May '16 11:08:44 AM by flameboy21th

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#56973: May 13th 2016 at 11:12:59 AM

[up]Unless someone comes at you with a machete.

[up][up]It's rather early to talk about deleted scenes but they did mention there was an additional scene between T'Challa and Nat that got cut.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#56974: May 13th 2016 at 12:18:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzzgOe8JS6Q

Probably longer plane scene, plus some bonus clips of the other heroes. Always felt the plane scene was a little Anti-Climax given all the buildup over the time Cap spent looking for him, not to mention pacingwise it seemed a too short to justify all the stuff Tony was running around doing during that time.

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#56975: May 13th 2016 at 12:27:45 PM

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