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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56526: May 9th 2016 at 10:37:34 AM

They can just do what they should have done in the second movie: Explain that what happened in Thor 1 was a passionate, wild, one-time fling that happened 6 years ago instead of trying to push it as a destined star-crossed romance.

edited 9th May '16 10:39:09 AM by comicwriter

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#56527: May 9th 2016 at 10:39:55 AM

Except they didn't even have passion or a fling. They kissed what, once? And they were physically attracted to each other. Thor was his usual "actually a nice guy" self.

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#56528: May 9th 2016 at 10:45:41 AM

Yes. It was a fun weekend with a cute guy, not an epic romance, and Marvel should never have tried to play it off as one.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#56529: May 9th 2016 at 11:22:54 AM

Has it been confirmed if Tessa Thompson is indeed playing Valkyrie? That would be awesome.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56530: May 9th 2016 at 11:26:27 AM

No, just that she's playing a superhero-type character. Valkyrie is the safest bet though.

edited 9th May '16 11:26:36 AM by comicwriter

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#56531: May 9th 2016 at 11:27:21 AM

Between Betty, Pepper and Jane, it's already looking like the MCU is suffering from the same 'superheroes can't ever have successful romances' syndrome as the comics, which is frankly a bit nagging.

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#56532: May 9th 2016 at 11:29:07 AM

At least part of that is to do with the actresses not being available, I think.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#56533: May 9th 2016 at 11:29:37 AM

I've been waiting for Betty to reappear for ages, but since we can't get a Hulk movie it's probably never going to happen.

Maybe if they made a tv show - I thought a She-Hulk show would be pretty good.

They can just do what they should have done in the second movie: Explain that what happened in Thor 1 was a passionate, wild, one-time fling that happened 6 years ago instead of trying to push it as a destined star-crossed romance.

That sounds like countering one mistake with another one. Just like how Iron Man 3 was intent on being as removed from the universe as a whole as it could manage as an overreaction to Iron Man 2's criticisms, it's simply too late to just invalidate what they've already done. The way they handled it had loads of mistakes, yes, but now it's out there and because of the way films are disseminated and received retcons like that tend to be more weighty there than they would be in comics.

Trying to invalidate it as "just a fling" now would be retroactively claiming parts of Thor's character arc in the last two movies weren't actually real, psyche! And that's not good writing.

edited 9th May '16 11:33:43 AM by KnownUnknown

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#56534: May 9th 2016 at 11:32:18 AM

If they recast Betty, who should play her?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56535: May 9th 2016 at 11:57:54 AM

[up][up]I rather like that about the movie so I don't really see it as a big mistake.

But if they can't handwave Jane away then I dunno. "Jane died on her way back home," maybe.

More seriously, there's any number of ways Jane could be shuffled away. In fact, Civil War has a scene where it's implied that the Avengers have no idea where Thor is or why he hasn't come back yet. It's been a year. Maybe Jane got sick of being jerked around (since this would be the second time Thor professed his devotion and then disappeared for long periods of time without contacting her) and moved on.

edited 9th May '16 1:13:12 PM by comicwriter

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#56536: May 9th 2016 at 1:04:19 PM

Plot twist: Both Betty Ross and Jane Foster start dating each other.

edited 9th May '16 1:04:36 PM by higherbrainpattern

ViperMagnum357 Since: Mar, 2012
#56538: May 9th 2016 at 1:22:15 PM

[up][up] This. Make it happen, Feige. Also to lessen the sting of Phylla-Vell and Moondragon nowhere on the horizon.

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#56539: May 9th 2016 at 1:23:40 PM

  • Betty: Getting away from those boys was the best decision of our lives.
  • Jane: You said it. I'm so tired of secrets and super-battles.
  • Betty: Yeah. Their world is crazy and I'm tired of being part of it.
  • Jane: Right? SO crazy.
  • Betty: By the way, I'm a Hulk.
  • Jane: What.
  • Betty: I thought you should probably know.
  • Jane: That's okay, I'm the new Thor.
  • Betty: ...
  • Jane: ...
  • Betty: Boys, amirite?

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yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#56540: May 9th 2016 at 1:23:54 PM

[lol]

I would watch that movie.

edited 9th May '16 1:24:22 PM by yellowturtle

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#56541: May 9th 2016 at 1:24:29 PM

2017: A-Force.

edited 9th May '16 1:25:02 PM by Tuckerscreator

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#56542: May 9th 2016 at 1:25:01 PM

Pepper flying by in her Rescue armor. "You said it!"

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#56543: May 9th 2016 at 1:29:58 PM

Damn, when did comic book girlfriends start getting awesome superpowers? Betty is now Red She-Hulk, Jane is Thor, Pepper is Rescue, will Karen Page or Mary Jane Watson or whoever Black Panther is hooked up with (that isn't Storm) get powers too?

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#56544: May 9th 2016 at 1:31:41 PM

MJ hasn't, but there's Spider-Gwen.

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#56545: May 9th 2016 at 1:35:27 PM

Speaking of superhero girlfriends, who's Doctor Strange's love interest? I know Rachel Mc Adam's is probably gonna play his movie interest, but what about in the comics?

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#56547: May 9th 2016 at 1:40:28 PM

The most iconic would be Clea, a sorceress of the Dark Dimension and niece of Dormammu.

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#56548: May 9th 2016 at 1:41:46 PM

And it's unlikely she'll be in the movie.

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#56549: May 9th 2016 at 1:46:56 PM

wild mass guessStephen Strange's love interest will be the Ancient One.wild mass guess

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#56550: May 9th 2016 at 1:48:38 PM

Ew...

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