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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#56101: Apr 29th 2016 at 9:39:57 AM

I would skip the Punisher series but the guy they picked to run it seems like he might actually know what he's doing, so. I'll probably give it at least a couple of episodes.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#56102: Apr 29th 2016 at 9:43:33 AM

I've never seen Hannibal. What did the guy they hired from there do that makes you think he could do a good job on the Punisher series, Wack'd?

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#56103: Apr 29th 2016 at 9:48:44 AM

He's got a co-writer credit on the vast majority of the series' episodes.

I feel like Hannibal succeeds where the Punisher, as a character, fails, in that they just sort of let the character do what he does, and leave why they're doing that up to viewer interpretation. All of the nuance and intricacies of his character are unspoken, accentuated naturally by the movement of the plot, which creates the illusion of depth far better than Daredevil's constant half-baked therapy sessions did.

It might be a little late for that, frankly. Lightfoot would do well with a blank slate. But I largely trust him to find some way to break the character without it being horribly forced.

...another problem might be that Hannibal is given to mind games where the Punisher isn't. His actions tend to be rather simple and straightforward. There are a lot of roadblocks here.

edited 29th Apr '16 9:51:51 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#56104: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:15:33 AM

Did anyone watch Ratchet and Clank

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#56105: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:15:58 AM

That's kind of off topic.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56106: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:31:57 AM

Punisher was the show's Breakout Character for many people, so I'm sure he'll be done well.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#56107: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:37:48 AM

I can hardly find reviews on it though [up][up]

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56108: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:39:11 AM

Isn't there a thread for the movie?

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#56109: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:45:00 AM

Yes, over in Western Animation.

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#56110: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:47:40 AM

I'm not sure whether Punisher can carry a show, but Marvel has yet to disappoint me so I don't doubt this Hannibal guy can create something great with him.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#56111: Apr 29th 2016 at 1:48:42 PM

I feel like The Punisher is kind of an inappropriate story to tell given the current state of American gun crime.

But I'll watch it because I'm a completionist.

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#56112: Apr 29th 2016 at 2:59:44 PM

Eh. I dunno if the Punisher can carry his own series. I might not watch it. If they were going to do a new series, I would have preferred it to be about Elektra or someone else. :/

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#56113: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:10:08 PM

Elecktra in a TV budget afterlife plot would have been awesome. Or any any plot really, the character benefits from being the protagonist, where as I don't feel like Frank does.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#56114: Apr 29th 2016 at 3:13:23 PM

Isn't one of the reasons why the Punisher series isn't a long-running one that he doesn't work that well as protagonist?

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#56115: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:11:31 PM

I feel like the Punisher could work, but only if handled with extreme care. Namely, you'd need to give him plenty of Pet the Dog moments while still hammering in what he does and why he does it.

edited 29th Apr '16 4:11:41 PM by LordVatek

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FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#56116: Apr 29th 2016 at 4:45:38 PM

or just give more of those mundane moments like he had with karine to flesh his personality out and mix up the conflict. plus mirco whatever he brings

edited 29th Apr '16 4:46:22 PM by FictionWriterKing

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#56117: Apr 29th 2016 at 5:02:19 PM

Isn't one of the reasons why the Punisher series isn't a long-running one that he doesn't work that well as protagonist?

I'm not sure what you mean. He's been published in his own series in some form or another since the 80's. He's getting a new book fairly soon too.

edited 29th Apr '16 5:02:36 PM by comicwriter

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#56118: Apr 29th 2016 at 7:56:07 PM

So I just learned Michael Keaton was offered the Big Bad role in Spider-Man Homecoming but rejected it.

Which Spider-Man villain could you have seen Keaton as? It's almost obviously no Venom or Carnage. No Rhino either. Kraven needs more of a bare chested peak shape macho man. This setting already has a Kingpin, and Keaton wouldn't fit that either. My pick is Mysterio, since quirky roles with a tad of showmanship are Keaton's best.

edited 29th Apr '16 7:57:32 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#56120: Apr 29th 2016 at 8:13:45 PM

A bit too obvious, what with the Birdman motif and that, plus he's kind of lacking for a movie's Big Bad. Maybe as part of a Big Bad Diumvirate. But I think they'd aim for more of a curveball.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#56121: Apr 29th 2016 at 10:04:50 PM

http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/04/29/carol-danvers-captain-marvel-will-be-in-avengers-infinity-war

Time frame for when we'll find out who's playing Carol Danvers. Chances are if it's not Emily Blunt who is becoming increasingly unlikely then in the usual MCU tradition of dark horse castings it'll probably be someone people weren't expecting, possibly not even a natural blonde.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#56122: Apr 29th 2016 at 10:24:41 PM

In any case, the wait sounds like it'll still take forever... -_-'

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#56123: Apr 29th 2016 at 11:49:50 PM

I usually don't do fan casting, but this time around I lean towards Kathrine Winneck. She has exactly the right level of experience to become the break-out star of a big franchise, and she fits the role perfectly...the only question marks are her height (she is not that big, but also not as small as she looks in Vikings...the other actors in the show are just really, really big) and her age (but then this would make is easier for her to play a experienced woman).

Either way, we will know sure. Generally speaking I think it would be better if Marvel picks an actress who isn't already known for a big franchise role and who isn't THAT famous yet. Benedict Cumberbatch was the first actor they cast at the high of his popularity. All the other main characters are played by actors who were at the time of their casting either in a career slump, middle tier actors who were known in the industry but not by the general audience, or actors who had their big break out with Marvel.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#56124: Apr 30th 2016 at 4:12:02 AM

How would a Captain Marvel film work? The Kree are used most on AOS, only arriving to Earth when people start messing with their left over stuff

edited 30th Apr '16 4:13:01 AM by FictionWriterKing

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#56125: Apr 30th 2016 at 7:04:57 AM

For MCU Spider-Man, has been stated yet on what they're going to do with Ben?


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