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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55777: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:23:44 PM

Winter Falcon, because nothing classes up a ship like the word Winter.

So clearly, all ships with Bucky in them are the classiest.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55778: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:25:12 PM

Captain Soldier, the best ship name!

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55779: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:25:14 PM

We'll have Winter Summers whenever that Avengers/X-Men crossover gets greenlit.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55780: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:25:28 PM

To be blunt I've never really cared about shipping very much, I would say I kinda get it but it seems like the pettiest and stupidest thing to get into a fuss over, and this is coming from someone who's all for people getting invested in the things they like.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55781: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:26:44 PM

It can be fun to think about, but getting angry over it is just pointless and moronic.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55782: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:29:28 PM

It doesn't help that Whedon does come off as a bit of a pompous diva sometimes, but a lack of social graces and not having marched on from 90's era liberal sensibilities with the rest of society =/= an active desire to see women herded back into the kitchen or Neo-Nazi sympathies.

edited 20th Apr '16 8:31:54 PM by AlleyOop

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55783: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:31:33 PM

[up][up]Agreed. It's just a headcanon with more make-outs.

Then again, people get mad about headcanons too so we're fucked.

edited 20th Apr '16 8:32:21 PM by edvedd

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#55785: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:01:30 PM

...I kind of like the ship name T'Chucky. :/ Mostly because it sounds stupid. tongue

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55786: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:35:07 PM

I want to ship Banner/Falcon now just so it can be called Bacon.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55787: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:39:53 PM

Scarlet Vision is a pretty great one. Inverting Winter Panther into Black Soldier is also funny.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#55788: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:46:52 PM

I... haven't seen any of this fuckery on tumblr. Am I doing it wrong? Or is it because I only ever look at my Dashboard, which is literally nothing but pictures of Chris Evans and Sebastian Stan (in and out of character as Steve & Bucky), cats, and petty revenge stories?

Hmm. Actually, I think the lack of drama means I'm doing it right.

Also, 'Bacon' is the best shipping name ever evil grin.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55789: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:52:31 PM

Best ship name is clearly Black Black.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#55790: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:02:04 PM

Is that Black Panther x Black Widow?

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55791: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:24:42 PM

Nailed it.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55792: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:31:07 PM

Steve has the best ship names...Stucky, Steggy, Stony...it is kind of sad that Stint never became a thing. Or Struce.....

On a general note, I feel like the MCU has been more smooth since The Winter Soldier, as if there are people behind the scenes which put a lot of effort into ensuring that the movies actually do line-up in a logical manner.

And here, take a little bit of great vid cutting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5KB-jcbt98

edited 21st Apr '16 12:41:03 AM by Swanpride

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#55793: Apr 21st 2016 at 2:34:10 AM

I think the quality of events connecting never changed. Instead the change in characters and their portrayal did. Each new plot serviced where the character was currently at. It's why Civil war can work because the characters have the requirements to make it work. As the marvel team gets a better handled on their cast then they are e situated perfectly into these new events.

edited 21st Apr '16 2:51:49 AM by FictionWriterKing

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55794: Apr 21st 2016 at 7:54:26 AM

Whendon's hatedom is really quite unique in that the majority of it comes from his fans.

Because Buffy was SO culturally relevant it got elevated to being an academicly legitimate topic. Which means fans of his were now applying university level criticims to his works (either for their careers or because there's such an abundance of relevant resources make it easy to do)

Which means there is A LOT of critism about on Whendon, but I don't think the points are made are illegitimate because of their quantity. It's just important to maintain perspective and remember he is respected and liked. We can discuss critism of his work without it being an attack on him.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55795: Apr 21st 2016 at 8:44:13 AM

Civil War for the last donut.

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#55796: Apr 21st 2016 at 9:33:45 AM

In any case, I've not found anything 100% definite about her ancestry anywhere aside from the Bendis post (and that's just the one guy), so I can't say whether Cobie Smulders is a bad choice or even if it's particularly wrong.

One guy who invented the character, mind you. Maria Hill first appeared in New Avengers #4 by Brian Michael Bendis.

Which doesn't change the fact that 1/4 latina isn't really something to get up in arms about. Just nitpicking that Bendis is a bit more closely related to the character's conception than "just one guy".

I didn't even like AOU but I find the need to constantly make it an attack on Whedon's character to be tiring. Sometimes people just make mediocre films.

Anger is an addictive drug. It feels amazing and people can become addicted to the emotion because of how good it feels, but it burns out. When they run out of fuel in the legitimate reasons, people tend to start going out of their way to find or even invent new ones.

This is how controversial topics inevitably drift into insanity. How bizarre Poison Oak Epileptic Trees start getting passed around fandoms. Bob made a video game and there are a bunch of problems with it but after eight months of complaining about them, I'm out of f*cks to give. But I still want to be angry so I need to find some new f*cks. Hey, did you guys notice that this little tidbit of info in the backstory can be interpreted to imply that the hero wiped out all life in the universe? This Happy Ending is disguising a Kill Em All! Bob, you sneaky bastard! ARGLEBARGLEBARGH.

Just like that, the rage is rekindled and the addict can resume coasting on the uplifting high of telling someone else the precise amount of shit s/he thinks that person should swallow.

Age of Ultron has been out long enough now that most of the fires over the immediately apparent, legitimate issues with the movie have died out. As such, it's drifted into the point in a Work's life where most of the unhappy people just sort of drift off and go find something else to watch while a select minority of people start finding weird excuses to keep the fires smoldering.

edited 21st Apr '16 9:36:18 AM by TobiasDrake

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ASGARDIANBRONY The divine warrior/mage/scribe! from Asgard Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The divine warrior/mage/scribe!
#55797: Apr 21st 2016 at 10:16:13 AM

Magic is in the MCU, it just has a lot to do with quantum mechanics. I don't get why this is hard for people to get.

I took it, AND THREW IT ON THE GROUND!
FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#55799: Apr 21st 2016 at 10:28:13 AM

Beware the end credits have been leaked O_O http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2016/04/spoilers-and-the-mid-credits-scene-from-captain-america-civil-war-is/ at your own risk

edited 21st Apr '16 10:30:18 AM by FictionWriterKing

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#55800: Apr 21st 2016 at 10:33:57 AM

Interesting. That's all I'll say on the matter.


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