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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#55726: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:50:03 AM

What about Namor who has the rights to him

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#55728: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:42:47 AM

Given that Namor's never been in a thing I'm hard pressed to believe his rights haven't just reverted back to Marvel.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#55729: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:53:04 AM

[up] Who understands the labyrinthine ways of Intellectual property laws.

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#55731: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:01:04 AM

Unlikely. Konami might make one but Kojima is no longer affiliated with the company and, instead, is setting up Kojima Productions as an independent game development studio.

He could make a spiritual successor like Mighty No. 9 or Yooka-Laylee, but any actual Metal Gear Solid VI that comes out is probably going to be by someone else.

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#55732: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:17:18 AM

Oh Konamismile

Yeah I would like to see a Kojima directed Marvel Movie

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55733: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:23:17 AM

If anything the lack of Metal Gear canon holding him down might make him inclined to incorporate even more Cap trilogy elements into it.

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#55734: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:25:27 AM

What MCU property should Kojima work with?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55735: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:30:55 AM

Given that Namor's never been in a thing I'm hard pressed to believe his rights haven't just reverted back to Marvel.

This was what Feige said.

It’s slightly more complicated than that. Let’s put it this way – there are entanglements that make it less easy. There are older contracts that still involve other parties that mean we need to work things out before we move forward on it. As opposed to an Iron Man or any of the Avengers or any of the other Marvel characters where we could just put them in.

thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#55736: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:38:23 AM

Don't know if this has been bought up yet, but does anyone here want to see Ghost Rider in the MCU?

Because really he's one Hell of a character.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55737: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:40:15 AM

Namor is pretty interesting as "The MARVEL universe's rival" I'm not sure he could work as a protagonist, but he'd be interesting as a supporting character.

But part of me thinks he'd just be less interesting than DCEU's aquaman, at this point.

I mean Namor in general comics committed the first 'alien' invasion the 616 saw in comics, and that holds a lot of weight because Namor has always been there. If he was introduced now into the MCU, he could only be just another space war lord.

[up] I'd like to see him in a supporting role in the Blade film that's baletently in the pipeline.

edited 20th Apr '16 10:41:24 AM by Whowho

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#55738: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:42:36 AM

Namor is basically Aquaman, but as an enormous dick.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55739: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:46:37 AM

A jerk with a heart of jerk, but sometimes he successfully saves the world? I don't know, he recently teamed up with THANOS.

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#55740: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:07:41 AM

Namor is like 85% villain, 15% anti-hero.

edited 20th Apr '16 11:07:56 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#55741: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:10:41 AM

I do want to see ghost rider but he's unfortunately stuck in an unfortunate position where he belongs more in the dark and gritty netflix series that wouldn't have the necessary budget to supply his costly special effects.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55742: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:24:44 AM

Just from outside looking in I think a guy who is angry with humanity for destroying what is their home, can fly and has all kind of nifty powers sounds more interesting that a guy who talks with fish...and I say that as someone who really loves Aquaman's rousing song of heroism. But I don't think that the Aquaman we will get in the DCEU will be anything like that.

I trust that the Disney lawyers will eventually manage to entangle Namor from legal limbo. Until then, it might be a good thing that they don't jump into dealing with a character who lives under water. Let other studios trying to figure that one out first.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55743: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:35:06 AM

Mostly I think Namor would be interesting to have on the Illuminati if ever that team is adapted.

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#55744: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:55:36 AM

The way I feel like Namor is the same way I sort of feel about the Fantastic Four: Cool interesting characters that are perfect for filling out the universe and are even better if they were always there but not necessarily my first choices for something front-row-center.

Like, with their own characterizations and adventures and stuff they help fill out a Marvel universe and a Marvel Universe would actually feel emptier without them but I'm not exactly clamoring for them as main characters.

Like, I've always enjoyed moments where I'm reading or watching something and they're like "hmm, this seems advanced, maybe we should ask Reed Richards" or "I wonder if the FF have encountered something like this before" or time where Johnny and Ben are just around and get involved becuase they're just good guys or just happen to be friends with someone.

And Namor is perfect becuase he has this whole kingdom he's running, isn't a nice guy, but as a ruler and directly involved with the aquatic ecosystem feels vitally important to any major situation without needing him to be there all the time. Like of course he's a member of the Illuminati, of course if someone like the Sentry goes nuts he's there, but he's got his own stuff to deal with. But when he's around you can guarantee the reaction is something along the lines of "Oh, it's that guy".

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#55745: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:56:39 AM

Namor mostly exists to ruin things forever.

if you don't have him around to ruin things forever, some people that people actually like might stop doing it instead.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55746: Apr 20th 2016 at 12:02:50 PM

If they ever did introduce the FF I'd want it to be that they've always been here, just off realm for the events of the contemporary MCU so far.

If you had them spend a lot of time off realm in places with reverse Narnia Time you could even have their origins be in the sixties. (I think Doom works better in a cold war setting anyway.)

I would like to see a good FF film somewhen. Them being explorers is interesting and different.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55748: Apr 20th 2016 at 12:59:48 PM

Infinity War? I first have to survive the upcoming week until Civil War....(I don't think that there was ever a week which felt that long).

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#55749: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:00:38 PM

I have to confess that atm I'm not terribly interested in Infinity War in general.

Ithilgore Since: Jan, 2001
#55750: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:08:14 PM

Why would you be now? It's still years away and there's a lot of movies to go through before it.


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