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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#55701: Apr 19th 2016 at 5:37:40 PM

I've never read any Lang comics except Spencer's, so not sure whether or not that's a previously existing thing or not.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55702: Apr 19th 2016 at 5:39:31 PM

I don't think it was. Taskmaster debuted as an Avengers villain, though I think he fought Scott (I believe Hank was Yellowjacket at this point).

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55703: Apr 19th 2016 at 7:18:16 PM

Scott Lang has no rogues gallery to speak of, because Marvel never gave him a solo series until he got a movie. He was not a big deal (no pun intended) at all until the movie.

They positioned Taskmaster as his enemy because the writer noticed that it just so happened that Taskmaster and Scott Lang had appeared in three stories together (they were created by the writer). The gag was that Scott considered these encounters enough to qualify Taskmaster as his Arch-Nemesis, while Taskmaster barely remembered who the hell Scott even was.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55704: Apr 19th 2016 at 7:25:34 PM

Well Taskmaster would be a pretty good villain, but I still wanna see Crossfire.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55706: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:25:23 PM

Taskmaster's a really weird person to use as a villain for an Ant-Man movie. For one, Taskmaster's primary gimmick is wasted on Scott, whose entire fighting style is based on his shrinking ability.

I'd love to see him in a Black Panther. Like, as a Hitman with a Heart Noble Demon someone sends after T'Challa, but whom bails on the job when he decides he doesn't care about the politics or is being used as a Patsy or something.

Or maybe a Shang-Chi movie.

Nah, they're probably just going to stick him in one of the TV shows.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#55707: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:28:07 PM

[up][up]

That seems to mostly be a tumblr blog full of complaints about Whedon.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55708: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:40:53 PM

Given the reception to Civil War, I honestly wouldn't mind if Whedon stayed away for a while longer. I'm not even sure what he'd direct.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#55709: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:50:55 PM

The cool thing about seeing Crossfire would be seeing him try, with his expert marksman ability. to shoot ants, and Scott actually having to dodge the bullets and maybe even climb atop a bullet mid-air or somesuch.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55710: Apr 19th 2016 at 10:52:12 PM

I'd definitely like to see Taskmaster show up, but Ant-Man is a poor choice. Taskmaster is at his best when he's up against Badass Normals whose techniques he can mimic.

Ideally he'd play small, Batroc-like roles in a few films across franchises, rather than being the Big Bad of a single film.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55711: Apr 19th 2016 at 11:17:06 PM

It might be cool to get Villain Protagonist / Anti-Hero series starring Taskmaster.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55712: Apr 19th 2016 at 11:55:33 PM

http://imgur.com/r/funny/iEzjR57

That vid of Cumberbatch sure is getting a lotta play. Also I swear that's my comic shop he's in.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55713: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:10:09 AM

Warning: The Guardian put up a Civil War review and apparently put a big spoiler into it, judging by the people who complain in the comment section (thankfully I looked there first if anyone was complaining about something along the line).

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55714: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:12:03 AM

Having lightly perused it but not to the point that I've been spoiled by it, yeah it's pretty skipworthy. Mostly just because it's basically a plot synopsis with little in the way of actual reviewing.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55715: Apr 20th 2016 at 1:13:55 AM

My favorite in that gif is Strange in Super Mario World.

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FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#55716: Apr 20th 2016 at 5:03:28 AM

Hopefully Universal will allow Abomination Leader and Betty to come back

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55717: Apr 20th 2016 at 5:18:40 AM

Just wanted to say I'll post less here for a while again.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55718: Apr 20th 2016 at 5:19:13 AM

[up][up] Universal has no say in this. All Universal has are distribution rights for any Hulk movie. Naturally Disney prefers to do a movie which has NOT Hulk in the title and distribute it themselves instead of putting money in a movie and then have to share the profits with Universal. But the character rights should be all with Marvel by now.

edited 20th Apr '16 5:19:30 AM by Swanpride

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#55719: Apr 20th 2016 at 5:24:45 AM

[up][up][up] From my understanding Universal just has distribution rights to a Hulk solo film. Marvel doesn't need their permission to use any particular characters associated with the Hulk.

Obviously if they go overboard in one movie it could cause problems. For example if Thor: Ragnarok is just Planet Hulk that's been intentionally mislabeled as a Thor movie, I could see Universal suing Disney over the distribution rights.

But there are plenty of ways to bring back any individual character and not run afoul Universal.

FictionWriterKing Since: Apr, 2016
#55720: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:00:44 AM

Ok if Marvel has the rights then HUREY UP AND BEING BACK IC HHLK CHARACTERS. Thunder bolt is a nice start. I just think Abomination and Leader warrant another appearance

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55721: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:02:36 AM

Patience. They might or might not turn up again.

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#55722: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:09:59 AM

Might take a while. With the MCU so profitable I doubt Universal is in any rush to let their rights lapse.

edited 20th Apr '16 6:10:21 AM by MousaThe14

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#55723: Apr 20th 2016 at 6:48:13 AM

[up] Universal just has the rights to distribute any solo Hulk movie that Marvel makes, they don't actually have the rights to make one themselves.

Marvel didn't need to get Universal's permission to put the Hulk in the Avengers movies or General Ross in Civil War.

I think Abomination in particular might show up if they have a Masters of Evil. Zemo (or whoever is in charge of the Masters of Evil, but probably Zemo) might decide to jailbreak the Abomination to use as a blunt instrument.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55724: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:47:49 AM

Also, distribution contracts usually end sooner or later.

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#55725: Apr 20th 2016 at 8:03:10 AM

Plot twist: the Leader has been The Man Behind the Man behind Thanos the whole time.


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