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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#55476: Apr 16th 2016 at 6:00:58 PM

I also liked the first one.

And I was okay with the parent plot in the first one because it was new ground.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55477: Apr 16th 2016 at 6:08:51 PM

I disliked the first one enough that I never saw the second, and apparently my decision was vindicated by the fact that most people consider it a mess.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55478: Apr 16th 2016 at 7:12:02 PM

ASM 2 is probably my favourite. It was the first time I felt like I was watching Spider-Man on the big screen rather than an interpretation of him.

Most of all I love how much it depicts Parker genuinely caring and putting time and effort into bettering the lives of his friends, family, enermies and fellow New Yorkers. It's what made his struggles and failures feel weighty, rather than previously where it just felt cosmically unfortunate.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55479: Apr 16th 2016 at 9:58:05 PM

I just saw an add for Civil War on TV. And I was disappointed with it. It started out showing the origins of Cap and Iron Man, followed up with the lumberjack scene from Ao U ("I don't really trust somebody that doesn't have a dark side" *rips log in half* "you just haven't seen it yet"), then a couple scenes from Winter Soldier, and then. Then they show a shot of Bucky in Civil War (not sure this counts as a spoiler, but it's the shot of him in full Winter Soldier gear standing under big lights of some kind, looking like he's being thawed out of cryo-storage and then we get into more footage from already existing CW teasers. It seems to be pushing the plot that all these movies have been leading up to Steve and Tony finally coming to blows, and disagreeing over what to do about Bucky was the catalyst. Absolutely no mention of Accords, or accountability vs. freedom, or any of that. Just two guys that never liked each other or saw eye to eye on anything finally having the fistfight they should've had in their first outing, and all their friends taking sides.

The marketing has so far done a pretty good job of making it clear it's more than just a fist fight though so I wouldn't worry. In fact a lot of the reviews say it's a pretty slow burn to the fight, but that it's still incredibly entertaining between them.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#55480: Apr 16th 2016 at 10:33:10 PM

So, that most recent clip we just saw. It's been speculated that that string of events is what convinced Team Stark that Bucky is beyond saving, but honestly, I think it should prove the opposite. Because he clearly was not fighting to kill. Think abut it: one metal fist or elbow to the throat would've killed Stark instantly, but he didn't. Yes, he fired that gun, but that could've been either an accident, or an assumption that if Stark was so willing to put his hand over the barrel like that, the glove must have been able to withstand a point-blank shot. Or Natasha; he carried her what looked like halfway across a big room, slammed her down onto a table, and gave her enough time to say something to him (a line which, contrary to most of Tumblr, I think alludes to the fact that this is the third time she's been close to death at his hands), all while his metal hand was around her throat. If he really wanted her dead, he could've crushed her throat right away, so I think he was planning on choking her unconscious and booking it; he seemed pretty determined to get out of wherever they were. And even once T'challa jumped in, there was a moment when Bucky punched him high in the chest with the metal hand. It was a perfect chance for a hit to the throat; why didn't he? Unless what he really wanted was to get away, but they tried to stop him and learned the hard way why HYDRA had such extreme containment measures for him. (oh holy shit, SCP Foundation vs Winter Soldier; why, brain, why!?)

Or maybe, once again, I'm full of shit; WMG'ing is a great hobby of mine wink .

denimjo Since: Jul, 2009
#55481: Apr 17th 2016 at 1:45:22 AM

Are we likely going to get a Civil War spoiler thread and/or a separate Civil War thread like we did for The Force Awakens and Bv S?

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#55483: Apr 17th 2016 at 9:24:13 AM

People used to joke about how all marriages in comics are doomed to fail aside from Lois & Clark, Arthur & Mera, Scott & Barda, Sue & Reed, Jessica & Luke and Medusa & Black Bolt. Let's just say that much like the "Everyone comes back to life in comics aside from Ben, Bucky and Jason" joke things have changed over the years.

Yeah. I remember hearing that Spider-Man and MJ are iconic like Superman and Lois; you CAN'T break them up, it just isn't done.

Last I checked, Superman was dating Wonder Woman. So.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55484: Apr 17th 2016 at 9:27:56 AM

Funny enough they solved that: the Superman from before the reboot is taking up the mantle again and he's still married to Lois with a young son to take care of. Pretty much all the classic DC marriages are now canon again.

edited 17th Apr '16 10:17:03 AM by LordofLore

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#55485: Apr 17th 2016 at 10:01:48 AM

Except Wally and Linda Park, of course. Thanks, Barry.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55486: Apr 17th 2016 at 10:34:51 AM

Yeah, Superman/Wonder Woman will be undone just like every other attempt DC has ever had at hooking Superman up with someone other than Lois. It never sticks.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#55487: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:12:32 AM

Hang on, Pre-Flashpoint Superman's back? How did this happen?

Oh God! Natural light!
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#55488: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:24:28 AM

DC's new reboot is apparently taking the approach of everything happened, every single comic since 1937, all in the same continuity, no exceptions.

It's gonna be nuts. grin

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#55489: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:26:16 AM

Including everything in the Silver Age?!

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#55490: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:29:09 AM

Their exact words were "everything that's been published since Action Comics #1 up thru The New 52."

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55491: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:32:40 AM

Nope, Superman and his family went from their Earth to the new one and has been living there under assumed names(White) for a while. The relaunch hitting later this year pretty much has a Reign of the Supermen type story in the Man of Steel related books with pre-N52!Superman taking over as the main Superman(in Superman, Justice League etc), Lex taking over as the protector of Metropolis since "his" Superman is gone(he'll be mainly teaming with Superman in Action Comics), a young man in China gets the powers of Superman and sets out to be a hero(New Super-Man,) Supergirl gets her powers back(Supergirl), Lois gets N52!Superman related powers(Superwomam), Jon Kent/White becomes the new Superboy and teams up with Damian Wayne(Super Sons) and a guy calling himself Clark Kent shows up. Everything is happening on one Earth in the Multiverse unlike before.

edited 17th Apr '16 12:15:51 PM by LordofLore

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#55492: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:34:15 AM

What the fuck even.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55493: Apr 17th 2016 at 11:36:46 AM

Hey, it's not like the time we had multiple Spider people running around on Earth(or together in the multiverse), the time Quicksilver blamed being a dick to everyone on mind control, Wanda killing a bunch of her friends, Scott Lang dying, coming back, having his daughter killed and then her coming back or the time the Punisher was black.

edited 17th Apr '16 11:41:34 AM by LordofLore

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#55494: Apr 17th 2016 at 12:07:03 PM

That is going to be way too chaotic.

Crow: There's a plot?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55495: Apr 17th 2016 at 12:17:14 PM

We currently have a comic with Peter during his early years even though we already saw those years on top of all the other Spider-Man books. If things sell well they survive.

Edit: Kate Beaton(of Hark! A Vagrant fame)poked some fun at Cloak and Dagger.

edited 17th Apr '16 1:34:52 PM by LordofLore

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55496: Apr 17th 2016 at 2:11:29 PM

I imagine the actual show costume will either be Civvie Spandex or Not Wearing Tights just because of the MCU's general approach towards pragmatic costumes. At most it'll probably be a cross shaped design on the shirt similar to Rin Tohsaka's shirt.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55497: Apr 17th 2016 at 2:17:22 PM

Probably just use the Ultimate look, which retains the dagger icon on her chest without it being a cut out.

So basically exactly what Beaton was proposing.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#55498: Apr 17th 2016 at 3:02:28 PM

I'm curious if a real life 616 costume is even possible. I'll check some cosplay.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55499: Apr 17th 2016 at 6:08:41 PM

They have adhesives for that, but the top part would still flap about without proper anchoring. Overall it's a costume that would likely be Fetish Retardant in real life.


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