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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
The question is, is it a race lifted big name villain or one of his villains of color from the comics.
Cause if it's the latter, I'm hoping for The Prowler so much. And that it's not Vermin.
edited 15th Apr '16 5:38:30 PM by KnownUnknown
Kevin Feige, the mastermind behind Marvel Studios’ interlocked series of movies, says there is no end in sight for the MCU – although it may take a different form after Phase Three.
“I think you look at comics as a guide,” Feige tells EW. Although certain titles may get relaunched or rebooted, the narrative exists on a never-ending continuum.
“I think there will be a finality to moments of Phase Three, as well as new beginnings that will mark a different, a very different, a distinctively different chapter in what will someday be a complete first saga made up of three phases,” Feige said.
Captain America: Civil War, which opens next month, is now the 13th movie in the series, and the universe has gotten to the point where a fresh twist was necessary, its filmmakers say. Instead of the usual good-guy/bad-guy conflict, this one pits hero against hero as Cap and Iron Man throw punches over who has power over the superpowered.
“Things always get deconstructed, right?” says Joe Russo, who directs Civil War with his brother, Anthony. (The two are also the filmmaking force behind 2018 and 2019’s Avengers: Infinity War double feature.) “You build things up and people enjoy the experiences you’ve built up. But then you kind of reach an apex or you reach a climax, a moment where you go, ‘This structure is really going to start to be repetitious if we do this again, so what do we do now?’ So now, you deconstruct it. We’re in the deconstruction phase with Civil War and leading into Infinity War, which are the culmination films.”
It’s no accident that the next movies in the Marvel Studios line-up – Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2, Thor: Ragnarok – involve characters who are not featured in Civil War. “That’s somewhat intentional to go and explore the other aspects [of the universe],” Feige says.
The post-Infinity War Phase Four line-up is currently wide open, although a third Guardians of the Galaxy movie is considered a likely option. Other possibilities include sequels to Doctor Strange, Black Panther, or Captain Marvel, which will all have their first stand-alone features released in Phase Three.
Although he left it vague, that could be what Feige means when he says the universe will become “distinctly different.” The same interlocked narrative will continue, but different heroes will be at the fore.
Maybe the MCU will have more of the "anything can happen in your back yard" feel the 616 universe has, given that there will be a lot more superheros at that point, and it would be post Thanos wrecking shit.
Like, I enjoy the narrative of the supernormal becoming more and more omnipresent. To the point where it's in the streets and kids are becoming superheroes.
edited 15th Apr '16 5:53:45 PM by Whowho
Apologies if this sounds terrible, but since the original comics didn't have many/any characters of color among Peter's classmates, I wonder if they are going to the route of Spectacular and racelifting those characters (which is fine by me).
As for the supporting villain, wondering and somewhat hoping that it's Shocker. Like to see him adapted, and he has been drawn as Ambiguously Brown.
Shocker is great! I'd love to see him show up.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.That's not terrible, it's just stating facts. Even TASM had Sally Avril as an Asian girl (for the like 10 seconds she was on screen).
Yeah, Shocker has always been a favourite choice of mine as a Spider-man villain with a decently strong power built out of technology but with far more humble ambitions along the lines of "get money."
No revenge plots, no crazy plans to take over the world or a city, just a regular Joe Q. A-hole that innovated one awesome piece of technology and is trying to get his. He's pretty much just like Peter before Uncle Ben died.
The Blog The ArtI'm in favor of anything that is treading new ground and not just trying to put a new spin on stuff that was in the Raimi and Webb movies.
This was what Feige said about Marvel's role in the movie.
edited 15th Apr '16 7:49:17 PM by comicwriter
I'd prefer it if they did it like The Spectacular Spiderman, where Pete has a large supporting cast including several possible Love Interests, and while there is a noticeable romantic arc there the plot takes a step back and has a lot of interactions with each of them.
It's not going to happen, though, because major romantic arcs are obligatory, but I can dream can't I?
edited 15th Apr '16 8:02:37 PM by KnownUnknown
I'd like it if Spidey had no real romantic plotline in general. Maybe someone he crushes on but not a proper "winning girl" or anything. Anyway, considering the story is supposed to take place in modern New York it'd be extremely unrealistic to the point of implausible deniability if every one of his peers was a white person.
Anyway that one rotten review for Civil War's main complaint seems to be the movie wasn't dark and gritty enough for his tastes, and while he's entitled to dislike it for that reason, hearing that will be the case isn't a negative in my eyes.
Sadly, she just doesn't seem to have a place. Every character fills their own specific niche, but hers (badass female agent) is already taken up by much better character. Take that away and all you have is a love interest.
This song needs more love.It's also kinda like, what does she bring to the fight that Black Widow or Hawkeye don't? All the reviews I'm seeing keep saying the fights are perfect because the Russos emphasize and contrast everyone's powers or skill sets, but then you have Sharon who doesn't bring much to the table.
Hopefully they find a niche for her in future movies.
edited 15th Apr '16 9:39:01 PM by comicwriter
Poor Sharon. Although it says something when even professional critics who tend to be more indifferent about such things are also coming down on the movie for shoehorning Steve into a cliche romance with Sharon over characters like Sam or Bucky who he has more natural chemistry with, or just no one at all (and possibly waiting to pair him with Sharon in a future movie, after she's already been given a chance to develop as her own independent character). At least the scene is supposedly brief so it's not too intrusive even if it ends up being particularly random.
It depends, because classic Prowler and Ultimate Prowler are two extremely different characters. One is a sympathetic bad guy who reformed and became a hero, and the other is a Card-Carrying Villain.

The Wrap also tweeted this: