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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55301: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:11:10 PM

Disguised as Bucky clones? tongue

edited 14th Apr '16 7:11:18 PM by edvedd

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#55302: Apr 14th 2016 at 7:26:12 PM

I hope that they make Strange older than Benedict's actual age.

I like that he's an older superhero who didn't become one until the middle of his life.

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#55303: Apr 14th 2016 at 8:50:10 PM

That is interesting RE Scott's comment (unless they're lying to him and not telling him he's going to be fighting other Avengers).

RE Zemo's look, I like Bruhl but it is disappointing the same way F4antastic Doctor Doom's appearance is. I do like the details about him though. Sounds like we might be the take on Zemo as sort of anti-villainish/rejecting of his family's past.

RE the Ancient One. Yeah, although I thought the trailer was very cool, I definitely raised an eyebrow at the fact that Tilda Swinton looks like your stereotypical (Chinese) monk. It makes the whitewashing even worse.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#55304: Apr 14th 2016 at 8:51:52 PM

we've gone over this before but I don't see why Swinton couldn't have just been a plain white lady without all this window dressing. It's like, if you're gonna try to dodge the issue like with the mandarin, then make the same kind of commitment.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55305: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:05:10 PM

We need to wait how they handle the ancient one. It is hard to judge just by looking at the trailer.

Btw: A little fun fact: I was for ages wondering how this actor with the name Bruhl was everyone was talking about, but since I didn't want to know too much about Zemo, I didn't really pay attention and never bothered to look it up...I just recently realized that the actor is Daniel Brühl! But apparently everyone "forgets" the Umlaut....

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55306: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:07:02 PM

Daniel Bruhl looks like an average nerdy guy in this film, so it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with. Beware the Unassuming Ones. tongue

edited 14th Apr '16 9:07:30 PM by edvedd

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#55307: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:19:02 PM

There's no umlaut key on my computer...

My various fanfics.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55308: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:20:41 PM

[up] You can replace the Umlaut by writing "ue" instead. But that was less about the people in the forum here, the few times I saw the name mentioned in articles, it was written "Bruhl", too. Just another example of shoddy journalism....

edited 14th Apr '16 9:21:55 PM by Swanpride

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#55309: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:21:16 PM

But that just looks even more incorrect.

My various fanfics.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55310: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:33:35 PM

Nice little post which collected all the stuff which was released this week, including some Empire Covers I haven't seen before: https://wegeekgirls.com/2016/04/14/captain-america-civil-war-b-roll-footage-clips-ew-covers-stills-and-more/

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#55311: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:36:19 PM

English rarely ever uses the umlaut or other accented letters, so it's merely a cultural thing of "that looks 90 percent like a "u". The dots can't be that important, are they?"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55312: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:52:25 PM

Another review, very careful to stay spoiler-free: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G00l-GGFmFk

It is kind of sad how many reviewers feel the need to add a "hey, I liked Bv S disclaimer"....

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55313: Apr 14th 2016 at 9:59:33 PM

You do, otherwise you get the 'Disney paid off the critics' people. Ohhhh lawdy.

edited 14th Apr '16 9:59:59 PM by edvedd

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#55314: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:28:57 PM

And that's why The Lone Ranger and John Carter were such smashing box office successes! evil grin

*McDucks in swimming pool of money*

edited 14th Apr '16 10:29:40 PM by Tuckerscreator

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55315: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:41:30 PM

I still don't have any idea how those movies got greenlit with the way they ened up. Disney must've lost millions on them.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#55316: Apr 14th 2016 at 10:47:43 PM

[up][up]Those movies should be proof positive that Disney isn't paying anyone off.

And come on, Warner Brothers is plenty big enough to pay off critics as well if they wanted to, and that clearly didn't happen, so y'know what? The system works, in this case.

Or maybe Disney paid them MORE. Dun Dun Dun.

edited 14th Apr '16 10:48:50 PM by edvedd

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55317: Apr 14th 2016 at 11:07:55 PM

I think the main reason The Lone Ranger was greenlit was Johnny Depp. John Carter, the movie is actually not that bad if you like that kind of pulp fiction story, but the marketing for the movie sucked.

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#55318: Apr 14th 2016 at 11:09:58 PM

John Carter took decades to even make.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55319: Apr 14th 2016 at 11:31:32 PM

The MCU exchange weights in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70pUOKRqYmc

Needless to say that they liked it.

Edit: And this review calls it the best movie since The Dark Knight:

http://www.heyuguys.com/review-captain-america-civil-war/

Okay, now I have REALLY trouble to temper my expectations.

edited 15th Apr '16 1:16:04 AM by Swanpride

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Destroyer of Worlds
#55320: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:10:21 AM

I've been reading a lot of fans talking about it on neo gaf as well and everyone that's seen it so far has absolutely loved it.

I saw many people call it better than Winter Soldier and the best MCU film thus far and others call it just a hair breath's away from being as good as the Winter Soldier.

Basically it's at least around as good as Winter Soldier.

BP and Spider were perfect and airport battle scene was one of the greatest action scenes of all time.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55321: Apr 15th 2016 at 2:34:49 AM

Also the fight scenes have weight, and they manage to keep both parties on the "he is kind of right" side.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55322: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:04:50 AM

Is it too early to call the Captain America franchise the best superhero trilogy of all time? I mean, so far every single trilogy dropped the ball by the time the third movie rolled around. But Captain America went from good to great to great again...and it has an even better success rate if you count in the Avengers movie, since they are also part of his story line. Than this character went from a great to a milestone movie followed by an great/outstanding one followed by an okay one to peak (for now) with another great one. That is the best track record not just for any Superhero franchise, but for every franchise in general with the possible exception if Mission Impossible. Next to no one reaches the fifth movie without at least a stinker inbetween.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#55323: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:08:00 AM

Eh, the first one was kinda meh.

Both in terms of critical reception, money and affecting the world the LOTR trilogy probably far surpasses the Cap trilogy.

edited 15th Apr '16 4:15:33 AM by LordofLore

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55324: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:08:38 AM

Got spoiled a tiny bit by the MCU Exchange review when they mentioned Zemo does live through the film, but it's the kind of information that actually makes me more excited for this film, since it was one of my worries going in.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#55325: Apr 15th 2016 at 4:12:24 AM

[up][up] I love the first one...it made me invested in a character which I frankly hated before seeing this movie.

[up] Somehow this one didn't register with me, because I always assumed that this would be the case. Marvel seems to have adjusted their approach to villains. Since the Russos see the Captain America movies and the upcoming Infinity war movies as part of one big story-arc I am even wondering if the villain wins this time around.


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