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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Rvdz Don't mock the shocker from in a bar, under the sea Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55152: Apr 13th 2016 at 2:50:38 PM

Never understood the point of a ratings system beyond vigintigrade. When you're going down into the centigrade zone it gets kinda nitpicky and flamebaity.

Anyway Rotten Tomatoes is up with its initial score of 14/14 fresh reviews.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_america_civil_war/reviews/

Don't look at Faraci's though[nja]. He casually drops plot spoilers without warning and the one he does bother to actually tag seems pretty minor (haven't checked but I think it's one I've been spoiled elsewhere on).

[up][up] I think it's a joke about IGN's infamous Pokemon ORAS review where they took points off for "too much water".

edited 13th Apr '16 2:51:39 PM by AlleyOop

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55153: Apr 13th 2016 at 2:54:43 PM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/04/13/review-captain-america-civil-war-movie/82941284/

Another fairly unspoilery review from USA Today which is also very positive.

he divided team allows many character moments for the android Vision (Paul Bettany), newer heroes Scarlet Witch (Elizabeth Olsen) and Falcon (Anthony Mackie), and mainstays Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and War Machine (Don Cheadle).

Glad to hear another review praise the movie for this. Always thought the Russos' ability to pack so much development and character moments into each scene and juggle multiple characters without making it bloated was a big strength of the last one.

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Statement: All meatbags must die
#55154: Apr 13th 2016 at 2:57:25 PM

So war machine finally gets development

Cut off one head 2 more shall take it's place! Hail Hydra
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55155: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:02:03 PM

A not-so-pleased review from Forbes.

[SLIGHT SPOILERS] The only loser in the bunch is poor Emily VanCamp, who is arguably there to briefly make out with Steve Rogers and undo the Steve/Bucky slash-fic talk.

Damn. Poor lady better hire some good bodyguards cuz the shipping Fan Dumb is going to be after her head hardcore. I've already seen Ineffectual Death Threats about firebombing Marvel and the Russo brothers' offices if they don't make Stucky canon over the last few months similar to the sunk-Clintasha fiasco.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:05:11 PM by AlleyOop

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#55156: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:05:38 PM

[up]Over a freaking ship? SERIOUSLY?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55157: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:06:19 PM

[up]Basically my thoughts. Some people get WAY too much into this.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55159: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:08:08 PM

Sad thing is this kinda talk is pretty common across all fandoms.

Anyway, if I'm reading the IGN review right, my speculation for the Steve and Sharon interaction is they probably kiss right after Peggy's funeral or something which is probably where the Squick factor comes in.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:10:06 PM by AlleyOop

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#55160: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:11:06 PM

[up][up]

From Birdman to Vulture?

Come to think of it, he'd probably be a pretty good Osborn too.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55161: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:12:11 PM

This would honestly be kind of awesome if true.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55162: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:16:44 PM

Would be a great meta-casting in more ways than one.

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#55163: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:22:34 PM

7.8/10 IGN: Too many superheroes.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#55164: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:38:11 PM

[up][up] Right? From Batman to Birdman to whoever-is-the-bad-guy-in-this-Spider-Man-movie!

And yeah, I can see him being Norman Osborn/Green Goblin. Either him or Matthew McConaughey.

By the way, anyone notice how it's pretty weird in an ironic way that some of these guys used to do DC movies and some of the guys at DC did Marvel movies beforehand?

Next thing you know, we'll have Keanu Reeves as Moon Knight and Emma Stone as Poison Ivy.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:40:12 PM by TargetmasterJoe

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55165: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:41:16 PM

Not particularly. There's so many goddamn supehero movies made now that it makes sense that certain actors would appear in different franchises.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#55166: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:47:34 PM

[up][up] Don't forget Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern to Deadpool.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#55167: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:52:28 PM

[up]Oh yeah. That too.

Sorry, guess I was having a moment when my crack casting of Keanu and Emma turned into me thinking "holy shit, that sounds like great casting choices."

EDIT: Shoot! I forgot Josh Brolin was Jonah Hex before becoming Thanos.

edited 13th Apr '16 3:57:44 PM by TargetmasterJoe

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55168: Apr 13th 2016 at 3:56:38 PM

Tbh I hadn't ever considered Emma Stone for Poison Ivy but I'd be interested in seeing that.

Also, I think if all of this is true I'd probably hedge my bets on Vulture being the villain because of the Meta Casting.

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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#55169: Apr 13th 2016 at 4:01:53 PM

Ya know, if Keanu Reeves was working in John Wick mode, he'd probably make a good Moon Knight. I mean, he's already an accomplished martial artist who does all his own stunts anyways.

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RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#55170: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:02:11 PM

So, Doctor Strange trailer hit, which I imagine has already been discussed. Not much for me personally to talk about there, except to bring up a blog post reacting to the first appearance of Tilda Swinton as the Ancient One.

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#55171: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:06:59 PM

Suffice to say I agree with him and that there's a thousand better ways they could've handled this.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#55172: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:09:19 PM

In fairness, we pretty much knew this was gonna be the case since the casting was announced. The only specifics were going to be the presentation of Swinton. The whole "white guy learns magic stuff from a white lady in Tibet and uses that to fight bad guys" was basically informed to be premise of the film the moment the casting was announced.

Not saying that it's ok for this to be the case or that people shouldn't be critical of it (it was part of the reason why i was tepid on this film at first).

edited 13th Apr '16 5:09:48 PM by wehrmacht

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