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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#54951: Apr 12th 2016 at 4:33:07 AM

[up]X5: Honestly, probably not, but it's funnier to think they did.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54952: Apr 12th 2016 at 6:32:25 AM

I hope they don't do that but it is pretty funny.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54953: Apr 12th 2016 at 7:25:22 AM

Ant-Man's bio does describe him as "unwitting".

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54954: Apr 12th 2016 at 7:45:36 AM

Like, I can sorta get what they were trying to get at with that scene, but man, that execution and that dialogue.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54956: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:02:43 AM

That seems kind of obvious. The interconnected nature of the MCU makes that a pretty bad idea.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54957: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:10:47 AM

They mentioned the "multiple death scenes" filmed btw for those that don't read the links.

edited 12th Apr '16 8:24:45 AM by LordofLore

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#54958: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:13:04 AM

No, they said that was a rumor they saw flying around, and brought it up to debunk it in addition to the alternate new Caps.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54959: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:18:40 AM

Basically the rumor was that they shot multiple funeral scenes in order to obfuscate the true one, and that the one many take it to be was a coverup for the "real" one involving one of the people we already know is in that scene.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54960: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:19:48 AM

Shooting multiple scenes to throw off spoilers is a thing I can see them doing. Multiple endings would be dumb though.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54961: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:27:28 AM

Apparently Ryan Coogler contributed to the Civil War script for reshoots.

That's cool to hear. Especially since I know a lot of people complain about the heroes seeming inconsistent in their solo films vs. the team movies.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#54962: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:30:08 AM

I know I'm eventually going to have to see Batman V Superman for the whole Martha thing. My plan's to see it tonight.

There's a lot of Jameses, though. There were three on the Howling Commandos.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54964: Apr 12th 2016 at 9:29:00 AM

The first poster for Doctor strange just dropped.

edited 12th Apr '16 9:29:49 AM by Swanpride

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54966: Apr 12th 2016 at 9:34:35 AM

At least he has his huge window.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#54968: Apr 12th 2016 at 9:59:05 AM

Friggin may contain scenes too intense for all viewers...

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#54970: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:18:58 AM

Dammit, they're both right.

Also, that's so cute, Vision thinks he's people.

Jokes aside, it's so weird seeing him in a normal outfit.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#54971: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:21:50 AM

Yeah. It's hard not to see where both are coming from.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54972: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:42:36 AM

That really looks like something Jarvis would wear.

I am with Cap on this one. If the accords were about establishing certain rules for intervention and regulations what happens when The Avengers needlessly endanger lives (why exactly is Tony getting away with creating a murder bot?), well, then I might be on Tony's side, but as it is, it only shifts the responsibility to someone else who might not be trustworthy.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#54973: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:53:52 AM

I was thinking that too. I could see Vision wearing that and transforming into Edwin Jarvis.

What's kind of funny to me is that while it's in-character, Steve and Tony sort of did a 180 on their views- Steve, who tends to be trusting of benevolent authority is in the position of arguing that the only authority they can trust is their own, and Tony, who typically hates government interference is arguing for oversight.

It's kind of an oversimplification, but basically Steve is liberal and Tony is conservative/libertarian and each is arguing from the opposite perspective.

And of course there's some hypocrisy on both ends- Steve being skeptical of an authority when it's not on the same page as him/goes against him and Tony embracing authority when he is okay with it/acting as its enforcer.

On another note, I really liked that scene with Scott.

edited 12th Apr '16 10:54:31 AM by Hodor2

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54974: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:58:41 AM

Steve is pretty much repeating what he did in WS. "Shady shit going down? Time to stop it. Oh shit, a villain is behind it!"

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54975: Apr 12th 2016 at 11:30:40 AM

I love that we keep making "he thinks he's people" jokes about Vision dressing up.

edited 12th Apr '16 11:31:01 AM by Anomalocaris20

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