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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#54901: Apr 11th 2016 at 9:26:38 AM

Damn. I've long since stopped watching Agents Of SHIELD, but I was looking forward to Black Bolt and Medusa in the Inhumans movie.

Been a while since I was in this thread, but I just wanted to say:
Falcon looks HYPE AS FUCK.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54902: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:05:09 AM

Defenders shooting so soon? Have they even started production on Iron Fist?

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konkarne Eva Pilot from Strawberry Fields Since: Aug, 2015 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#54903: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:07:25 AM

No word on Iron Fist except some of the casting.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54904: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:08:37 AM

And that the guy who got cast is training the basics in a few martial arts right now.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54905: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:28:05 AM

Bios for all the Civil War characters.

Among other things they say Vision likes making himself look like the late Edwin Jarvis now.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54906: Apr 11th 2016 at 10:37:33 AM

Ryan Coogler will be co-writing Black Panther in addition to directing it, which is good news. His writing on Creed and Fruitvale Station shows he knows how to develop characters well.

It also says they'll be shooting at the beginning of next year and have some more casting announcements this Summer.

edited 11th Apr '16 11:53:55 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54907: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:09:16 AM

That's great to hear. Especially since Joe Robert Cole doesn't have much of a resume and was the part that worried me the most about his upcoming solo. As the Cap films have shown the quality of writing can really make or break the thing.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54908: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:10:47 AM

Speaking of Creed, Tessa Thompson has been cast in Thor: Ragnarok. It's said she's "some kind of superhero" and will appear in multiple films. She's also the new love interest for Thor, it seems.

edited 11th Apr '16 11:20:39 AM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54909: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:21:40 AM

She's also going to be his love interest, evidently.

The most obvious possibility is that she's playing Valkyrie or Tarene, and that if Thor does indeed die in this movie either of them will show up to help the Avengers in his stead

But I think there's going to be a twist on it, and that she'll be playing Amora - who acts as "kind of a superhero" in this movie, helping Thor and fighting against the forces of evil (and serves as a love interest in that Thor is drawn to her but ultimately decides to stay with Jane) but has a Heel–Face Turn at the end and shows up later with the Masters Of Evil. If that really is the case, I really hope they don't have her Heel Turn only be based off the fact that Thor rejects her. I hate that motivation for female villains.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#54910: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:25:42 AM

Just had a thought- unless it's All There in the Manual, that detail about the Vision would seem to imply that at some points in Civil War (and in future films?) we will see him as an (aged up?) James D'Arcy.

Not sure how that will work since he and Bethany don't really look or sound at all alike. I think it only works now because of the handwave that the AI is based on Tony's recollection of Jarvis.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54911: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:30:45 AM

That might be our first official movie/TV crossover, if that's the case.

Also, someone just hilariously pointed out that Thompson is doing a movie with Natalie Portman. AWKWARDDDDDD.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54912: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:45:24 AM

Unless it's a character that's being race bent I have no idea who she could be playing if she has a connection to Thor. If she's the new love interest I'm guessing maybe something like Thunderstrike?

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#54913: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:45:38 AM

[up][up] Doubt it. I never had the impression she even wanted to do a second Thor, let alone a third.

edited 11th Apr '16 11:45:48 AM by Prowler

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#54914: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:47:42 AM

Supposedly she was originally enthusiastic for Thor 2, back when it was going to be directed by Patty Jenkins.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#54915: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:51:07 AM

Finally a love interest for Thor that can actually do romance, though. Still, the Thor movies themselves can't well, otherwise he'd be with Sif by now.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54916: Apr 11th 2016 at 11:55:17 AM

Agent Carter is administered by the film division, so out of the TV series it's the most likely to have such a crossover.

Anyway if they do adapt Amora I really hope they revamp her character significantly. Those kind of plots wouldn't fly in today's climate, most importantly that they're trite and a lot of people don't have patience for that kinda love drama.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54917: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:10:08 PM

I am not worried by about the Inhumans movie just yet...They have added so much to the slate and it so far down the line, and considering what it is about, it kind of makes sense to start a new Phase with a new angle instead of tacking it behind or between Infinity war.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54918: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:16:41 PM

Valkyrie seems like the obvious solution, but Enchantress would be the dream.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54919: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:32:43 PM

More serious character thoughts: We know the movie's going to be pretty much a road trip so what if she's the MCU's version of Alflyse only not the new leader of the Dark Elves? Maybe a Captain Universe? If she's going to be in multiple films outside of Thor movies I could also see her as Monica. Of course there were apparently plans to have Valkyrie in T2...

Edit: Had it pointed out to me that there's apparently a character called Zephyr in one Thor book who was his girlfriend.

edited 11th Apr '16 12:41:29 PM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54920: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:35:43 PM

The Russos say Infinity War Part I and II isn't really a Part I and II.

The movies are very very different from one another,” Russo told io9. “It’s not a part one and part two scenario, necessarily. They’re just two different expressions. I think it creates a misconception that we’re shooting them at the same time.”

Co-screenwriter Stephen Mc Feely echoes that statement, saying "I will agree [the two movies are very different], and that was very important to all of us."

When asked how the two films will differ, Anthony Russo said it's an episodic continuation from their first Marvel film that's part of a broader "storytelling arc".

“For us there’s a through line from Winter Soldier, through Civil War, right to Infinity War,” said Russo. “In our mind, the storytelling arc moves that way.”

“There’s an overarching story that’s going to be told through all four films,” added Joe Russo. “And I think having the amount of characters we have in [Civil War] certainly prepares us to deal with probably triple the amount of characters in Infinity War.”

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54921: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:37:43 PM

So pretty much the way DC are doing JL Part 1 and 2, then.

Damn you Harry Potter and Twilight for making companies call all their movies part 1 and 2!

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54922: Apr 11th 2016 at 12:50:42 PM

This makes me think a Masters of Evil plot In Part 1 is even more likely.

Really I'm struggling with what threwline there could be.

You've got Bucky, themes of accountability, preemptive resistance. Hmmmmmm.

I don't know. Perhaps things will become clear once we see Civil War.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54923: Apr 11th 2016 at 1:10:59 PM

David Wenham has been cast in Iron Fist as Harold Meachum the guy who kills Danny's parents.

[up]Well, the ending of The Winter Soldier plants at the idea of people beginning to grow dissatisfied with the Avengers, with the politicians complaining to Black Widow about the lack of accountability and the collateral damage the heroes caused. Civil War then picks that up and Infinity War will likely deal with it as well, particularly if Zemo is involved once again.

edited 11th Apr '16 1:12:48 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54924: Apr 11th 2016 at 1:24:25 PM

They sure do like casting their fantasy actors in this series don't they.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54925: Apr 11th 2016 at 1:28:19 PM

[up] Yeah, geez.

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