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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54826: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:16:34 PM

My favorite review of ASM 2 regarding Peter's arrogance was that it was the story of a young man who through hard work and perseverance, manages to get his girlfriend murdered.

Daniel Bruhl talks about Baron Zemo a bit.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54827: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:23:18 PM

Peter Parker's origin story is that he had to indirectly get his uncle murdered to cure him of being a self-centered asshole. That's from the comic.

As is Peter threatening to knock someone's teeth out for ribbing him.
And this.

The world is probably lucky that Peter indirectly got his uncle killed actually.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54828: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:31:40 PM

Hmm, I've heard Zemo is basically the Lex Luthor of this film. Something that was called early on in Batman v Superman, partly because the trailers gave it away too early. Hope Zemo gets more to do than that.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54829: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:34:55 PM

The first trilogy peter is the shy and withdraw and is a loser until he get the power, amazing one is moré of a him being awsome or cool, Both aré good to me

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#54830: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:37:03 PM

Peter Parker's origin story is that he had to indirectly get his uncle murdered to cure him of being a self-centered asshole.

True. My problem with ASM Peter is that he doesn't stop being one after his uncle gets killed. It's just one in a series of portrayals and stories that really soured me on the character, so I'm really hoping MCU Spidey can get me on board with him again.

edited 9th Apr '16 7:58:41 PM by wehrmacht

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54831: Apr 9th 2016 at 7:59:24 PM

It took ages for Peter to stop being a dick.

He was really bad at managing his life because life kept kicking him in the balls and Aunt May was a stiff breeze away from dying and social situations were to be solved by brooding away from them.

Also because Steve Ditko drew him really angry all the time.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54832: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:02:11 PM

he was a pretty angry guy from what i remember yeah

i don't think peter started softening up until romita took the reins actually

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54833: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:13:43 PM

60's Peter was a real asshole sometimes, yeah. He could be petty, abrasive and broody, and he was really intense. ASM Peter's more sardonic and callous in comparison. Raimi Peter is a self-centered brooder who has trouble understanding other people's problems.

Though he's not as bad as, say, Reed Richards or Tony Stark.

edited 9th Apr '16 8:14:11 PM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54834: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:15:16 PM

A new still. Wanda and Vision look like Tony walked in on them making out.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54835: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:15:53 PM

"I DID NOT CREATE YOU SO YOU COULD DO THIS"

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54836: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:17:14 PM

Or Tony got sick of Vision beating him in chess for god knows how many times. evil grin

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#54837: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:19:12 PM

I'm more amused by Vision wearing clothes.

He thinks he's people.

edited 9th Apr '16 8:19:21 PM by SonOfSharknado

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54839: Apr 9th 2016 at 8:25:41 PM

[up]how do you find these things lol

was there literally a post on a website somewhere talking about "that one time vision wore a speedo"

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54841: Apr 9th 2016 at 9:17:07 PM

My google fu is pretty decent. I know what terrible things to put into a searchbar .

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54842: Apr 9th 2016 at 9:17:49 PM

It's so weird seeing the Vision wearing clothes.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#54843: Apr 9th 2016 at 11:32:36 PM

Well, he can make 'em, so.

And android or not, suits are always stylin'.

edited 9th Apr '16 11:33:01 PM by edvedd

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johnnysasaki Since: Jun, 2012
#54844: Apr 10th 2016 at 12:48:29 AM

with how great The Winter Soldier turned out to be and these early impressions of Civil War,can anyone imagine what the Russos will be capable of in Avengers 3? God,we still have to wait until 2018 and it will be just Part 1...

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54845: Apr 10th 2016 at 1:00:23 AM

Granted the embargo date was a lot closer to the film's actual release but what were the first reviews of Batman v Superman like? I'd still be skeptical until the full reviews start coming out.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54846: Apr 10th 2016 at 1:13:39 AM

[up] Which will be in a few days. I doubt that Marvel would lift the embargo that early if they weren't sure they had a winner on their hand. Also, the other "early screening" successes were always the reactions of fans, this time around we are talking mostly about critics. Which is why some of the reactions are very critical already.

But yeah, we won't know for sure until the proper reviews tickle in and then we have to wait again for Wo M. But by them time the movie is released in the US, I doubt that there will much of a change regarding either the critic or the audience reaction.

edited 10th Apr '16 1:15:10 AM by Swanpride

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54847: Apr 10th 2016 at 6:40:58 AM

So anyone want to guess stingers? I think there'll be a Thunderbolts one if it isn't part of the plot in some way(with all the promotion of them now I could see a few movies with them(didn't Gunn want to do one?)) and a Strange one.

I also expect one of the first scenes in the movie to be a funeral and one of the last scenes to also be a funeral.

edited 10th Apr '16 2:52:33 PM by LordofLore

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#54848: Apr 10th 2016 at 6:56:40 AM

[up][up]Which is honestly why I feel good about these. Sure, most of the reactions are from the geek/enthusiast sites, but the fact that some people have complaints but liked it regardless (like even the IGN guy) reassures me that I'll like it. Pure non-critic FAN reactions are more difficult to trust.

[up]Ditto on the second one being for Strange.

edited 10th Apr '16 6:57:24 AM by edvedd

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54849: Apr 10th 2016 at 7:26:12 AM

My guess is Strange, perhaps Got G. The other movies aren't that far ahead in production, plus, for Spider-man and Black Panther their presence in the movie is more than enough of a stinger.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54850: Apr 10th 2016 at 9:17:12 AM

Black Panther is a way off, but still seems reasonable. I'd still hope for a Masters of Evil stinger.


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