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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Wow, Cap is a bit of a prat in that comic excerpt. He's making it exceptionally hard to sympathize with him. In fact, I kind of want to see his face get punched repeatedly.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersHe's overly sanctimonious.
I lack context so I don't know whether this is what its really about but Cap gave up because he was alarming firefighters and police and 'real people'
When the horse was already out of the barn. When Goliath had died and all that property damage and bruised clavicles had happened. When Tony had already offered him a truce - a truce that we know from a What If that he was serious about and would have led to a great compromise. A truce offer that instead the 616 Cap used to get a cheap shot on Tony.
The writing in Civil War was pretty much all stupid but Cap being a sore loser doesn't really help to support his own side. (Also animals go to war all the time, that's a dumb quote.)
Tony may have been written like a fascist lunatic in Civil War but Steve was pretty much written as a lunatic too. But since he shouts AMERICA and FREEDOM he mostly got away with it. Also because he died before he had to deal with the repercussions. Lucky bastard.
So the whole conversation comes off as 'nyeh nyeh i have the moral high ground' and Tony just lets him wear himself out shouting. It comes off less as mighty philosophical shut down of the Very Wrong Tony and more Tony realizing there's no point even talking to his asshole.
edited 9th Apr '16 1:46:25 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWe're already talking about it, but hey early Civil War reactions.
Survey says:
- MCU!Spider-Man is Best Spider-Man. note
- Chadwick Boseman kills it as Black Panther.
- Spidey and Ant-Man give the right amount of levity for this movie.
- The airport scene is much bigger than what we've seen in the trailers.
- Already said it, but it's worth mentioning again. MCU!Spider-Man is Best Spider-Man.
You can almost hear the Sony executives who wanted to keep doing The Amazing Spider-Man Series sitting in their offices going:
(Headdesk) Damn it. (Headdesk) Damn it. (Headdesk) Damn it. (Headdesk)...
Cap's conduct in the 616 civil war makes him pretty unlikeable to me. It seems his plan was to set up infrastructure to allow vigilantes to fight crime and threats without the government being able to locate and apprehend them. But all he actually does is none of that and instead leads superheroes in attacking government facilities.
Tony was Anti Reg too, but his approach was to collaborate with the government to try and ensure the Reg doesn't become a human rights shit show, but cap stopped him from doing that.
Cap was the aggressor who made it a war. Tony meanwhile retaliated too hard and escalated to the fascism he originally set out to stop.
Screaming about how you never compromise anything ever sure is what America and freedom are all about.
Somehow I'm not even sure if I'm being sarcastic.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Garfield's Peter Parker was a Cool Loser.
Maguire's Peter Parker was just a dweeb.
I want an actual nerdy Peter Parker. Someone you could see reading Lord of the Rings, go on fan forums, be an avid video gamer, read comic books, love Star Wars, buy action figures and be a bit shy act and under-confident without it being crippling.
edited 9th Apr '16 6:01:04 PM by MadSkillz
See, I didn't like the ASM movies, but that criticism always seemed a tad weird to me. Geek culture in 2012 is not what it was in the 60's. Superheroes and fantasy are far more mainstream. Comic book movies and the Lord of the Rings don't make a billion dollars because hardcore friendless geeks see them; they do so because EVERYONE sees them. Video games are a bigger industry than Hollywood. Game of Thrones and The Walking Dead are two of the most popular TV shows on the air right now.
The pop culture landscape for nerds is vastly different now, so I never really had a problem with the fact that he had a trendy haircut and a jacket and rode a skateboard. I can tell you that when I was in high school only a few years ago, the people into nerdy shit did not dress in big thick coke bottle glasses and sweater vests anymore.
ASM Peter does fit the antisocial and kind of mean side of nerdishness. Like I can definitely see him making nasty Reddit comments.
So from that perspective, it would be nice to see a Peter who besides not being an asshole, had "nerdy interests"- come to think of it, the CW Flash is a good model for that.
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That was my main problem with him: ASM Peter just felt like a self-centered asshole, which made it impossible for me to care about him because I felt this was something that was insufficiently addressed by the film, it felt like it was accidental rather than purposeful in some respects.
edited 9th Apr '16 7:18:11 PM by wehrmacht

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