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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54726: Apr 7th 2016 at 11:10:21 PM

I don't know if it'll necessarily make as much money as Batman v Superman just because the sheer idea of Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman who everyone and their grandparents knows about teaming up is that huge of a draw. At the same time it doesn't seem like Marvel spent nearly as much money either making or promoting Civil War as WB did for BvS, so even if the box office is totals end up being a little lower Marvel can afford it and will probably have made more money in the end.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54727: Apr 7th 2016 at 11:44:05 PM

Actually, the movie is tracking better than Batman v Superman originally did (though naturally tracking was wrong in both cases...it did better opening weekend and will most likely do worse overall when all is said and done), so the interest is certainly there. And in the countries in which it is named "The First Avenger: Civil War" a lot of people will believe either was that it is an Avenger movie. And we all know how well those do at the box office.

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#54728: Apr 8th 2016 at 1:16:52 AM

Batman v. Superman had a monstrous opening weekend, followed by a meteoric crashing drop in the coming days. The decrease in percentage is worse than any superhero movie ever. Opening weekend it brought in something like 400 million, currently the worldwide box office is less than double that. It's entirely possible it won't even break 1 billion, while Civil War has been significantly more hyped up than Iron Man 3 (remember that IM3 more than broke a billion) was and, if it delivers on the hype, Captain America 3 could very well make enough to be comparable to the Avengers movies.

edited 8th Apr '16 1:18:24 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54729: Apr 8th 2016 at 1:26:25 AM

Well, one thing for sure, Civil War won't make as much in it's first week as Batman v Superman did in terms of worldwide numbers, but that's because it won't open in all markets at once. And it still needs good Wo M, just like Bv S did, or it will crash, too. But let's assume for a moment that the movie is actually as good as some people claim it to be, then I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up actually beating out at least Age of Ultron if not The Avengers. With this line-up everyone who is interested in just one of those heroes will want to see it.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54730: Apr 8th 2016 at 1:55:22 AM

Btw, the current top 15 comicbook adaptions at the box office looks like this:

  1. Marvel's The Avengers
  2. The Dark Knight
  3. Avengers: Age of Ultron
  4. The Dark Knight Rises
  5. Iron Man 3
  6. Spider-Man
  7. Spider-Man 2
  8. Deadpool
  9. Spider-Man 3
  10. Guardians of the Galaxy
  11. Iron Man
  12. Iron Man 2
  13. Man of Steel
  14. Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice
  15. The Amazing Spider-Man

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54731: Apr 8th 2016 at 2:19:26 AM

[up] Those are domestic numbers, right? Because internationally, The Avengers, Age of Ultron and Iron Man 3 are in the top ten of the highest grossing movies of all time, followed by The Dark Knight Rises as highest grossing Batman movie.

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#54733: Apr 8th 2016 at 5:08:27 AM

I don't imagine Tony is THAT dumb.

But you never know who else had access to the knife...

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#54734: Apr 8th 2016 at 5:34:00 AM

Re the featurette: I just found out that "In Good Company" is also the name of a movie where Scarlette Johanssen plays a woman who's sleeping her father's new boss. Said boss is played by Topher Grace.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54735: Apr 8th 2016 at 6:14:50 AM

Edit: Never mind

edited 8th Apr '16 6:15:58 AM by Swanpride

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#54736: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:08:21 AM

So, James Gunn, the Russo Bros., or Whedon

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#54738: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:11:41 AM

Which is the best MCU director

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#54739: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:24:52 AM

Russos, for sure, at least based on one movie. We'll see how Civil War fares.

I have every reason to feel good about it though, because every time the Russos talk about the movie they just seem intelligent and thoughtful about the process.

As for how well it'll do... it'll be a winner commercially, and I think the fans and critics will be far more aligned on this one than BVS. To be fair, there are probably plenty of regular moviegoers and fans who dislike BVS, but the critics were pretty merciless.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54740: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:29:01 AM

Hard to tell...the sample size isn't big enough (yet). But if the Russo bros knock it out of the Ballpark again with Civil War, they get the top spot.

[up] I actually think that the critics were too nice. Most went for something like a 5 out of 10, which is read as rotten, but actually means "this movie is mediocre". In the end, it's not the critics which sunk the movie. They are only relevant for opening weekend, and most of the fans had purchased their tickets long before their reviews hit. After that, the box office is more a matter of Wo M.

edited 8th Apr '16 7:31:28 AM by Swanpride

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#54741: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:35:53 AM

I'd have to go with the Russo's as well. I particularly liked the dynamic between Cap and Black Widow

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#54742: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:41:18 AM

I'd also say the Russo brothers. I really enjoyed The Winter Soldier.

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#54743: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:46:52 AM

It's kinda rare that filmmakers get such a rep on such a limited filmography.

edited 8th Apr '16 7:47:27 AM by edvedd

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yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54744: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:51:48 AM

It's just that great.

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#54745: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:57:02 AM

Whedon, the Russo brothers are a close second, though and Civil War might put them in competition, if it's good enough.

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#54746: Apr 8th 2016 at 7:57:35 AM

Well the Russo's go out of their way to make their movies Honest Trailers proof

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ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#54747: Apr 8th 2016 at 8:01:36 AM

I have high hopes for Civil War. Gotta say, I enjoy the snark that Whedon brings to the table, but the Russos seemed to have a knack for grounding their story while still making it light enough that the plot twists didn't send it careening off into grimdark territory.

Let's face it, SHIELD being secretly HYDRA would've been a great chance to go full grimdark.

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#54748: Apr 8th 2016 at 8:14:26 AM

It would have.

Remember that Whedon only has two movies in the MCU, so once Civil War comes out, comparing Winter Soldier and Civil War to Avengers and Age of Ultron should be fairly simple.

edited 8th Apr '16 8:14:44 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#54749: Apr 8th 2016 at 8:22:28 AM

I don't like Avengers but I think Winter Soldier is the best MCU movie, so Whedon's not even in the running for best director as far as I'm concerned. I've heard pretty consistently that Ao U has a lot of problems so it's fair to bet that watching that wouldn't change my opinion although I'll still be seeing that at some point.

edited 8th Apr '16 8:31:21 AM by wehrmacht

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54750: Apr 8th 2016 at 8:34:47 AM

It seems unfair to compare three directors over four films.

At the moment I'll say James Gunn, but I'm prepared to be proven wrong.


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