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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MapleSamurai Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
#54701: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:03:58 AM

@Mad Skillz

I may be late on commenting on this, but am I the only one you imagines the Scarjo-bot being made by Ultron in - universe as the MCU version of Jocasta?

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54702: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:19:13 AM

I think Pepper and Tony as a pairing is above average but yeah, the track record for the MCU overall so far has been less than stellar. Which, to be honest, the track record for romance in superhero movies isn't exactly the greatest. A lot of the time it ends up feeling mechanical and like part of a formula rather than a strength of the film.

edited 7th Apr '16 9:21:12 AM by wehrmacht

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54703: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:47:00 AM

[up] They are above average, but there are also a lot of issues with the way their relationship is portrayed.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54704: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:48:33 AM

You mean the climax of IM 3 lol? I recall perusing your blog a while back and saying that the entire movie just collapses on itself by the end

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54705: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:56:47 AM

[up] I didn't really spend that much time on their romance is said article (for reference, this one: https://swanpride.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/marvellous-and-dcent-pepper-potts/ ) and more on her as a character, but yeah, the most problematic scenes involving those two are related to Iron Man 3. I just don't get why the writers felt the need to create an artificial conflict between those two. I firmly believe that once the "well they won't they" period is over, the time for fake drama is too.

DarthSion Statement: All meatbags must die from Slokovia Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
Statement: All meatbags must die
#54706: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:01:32 AM

Hunter and Bobbi have good chemistry

Cut off one head 2 more shall take it's place! Hail Hydra
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54707: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:07:50 AM

[up] I like Bobbi and Hunter as well as Fitzsimmons, but it would be a lie to claim that I am particularly invested in their relationships. When they do it well, it's great, but romance is usually more or subplot on Ao S and not the main event.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54708: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:09:12 AM

Can they carry that other new show? I know Ao S's ratings have been slipping further down(as did Agent Carter S2 IIRC).

Sif might not be in Ragnarok.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54709: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:59:22 AM

I don't think anyone who isn't actually on the production side of things knows what's going on in Ragnarok.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54710: Apr 7th 2016 at 12:17:17 PM

Well if the Cloak and Dagger show fails, the characters can still turn up else where in the MCU.

I was hoping for an adult audience take on them though.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#54712: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:35:35 PM

I just got my Civil War ticket, and I'm slightly annoyed that a Captain America movie comes out earlier in almost every other country.

Make mine Marvel.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54713: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:37:04 PM

Disney has been doing that with pretty much all their movies lately. It's really stupid.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54714: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:39:28 PM

Cap's so selfless he realizes his movie must be shown first to those who need it most. You Americans already spend year-round with him parading on your streets fighting crime, the world only gets to see him through the movies.

It's the american way.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54715: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:41:48 PM

[up] basically

he is the truest patriot

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#54716: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:44:57 PM

Couldn't the movie come out the same day everywhere though?

Make mine Marvel.
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54717: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:47:39 PM

That's not really up to Disney always. Remember, other countries have their own film slates and schedules and sometimes it can't be helped.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54718: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:51:14 PM

Technically it premieres in the US because of the Los Angeles showing doesn't it.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54719: Apr 7th 2016 at 9:56:03 PM

So.

How bad do you think Civil War will make Batman vs Superman look like? evil grin

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54720: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:03:47 PM

probably pretty bad

i had enough money to see it but had to spend it so i'm kinda unable to

if it's on par with winter soldier it is already a much stronger film than Bv S

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54721: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:10:45 PM

Batman vs. Superman doesn't need any help looking bad.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54722: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:19:35 PM

A rehash of The Incredible Hulk and it'll have already done the job.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54723: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:22:12 PM

If Civil War is anywhere around the quality of Winter Soldier, it would be nails to the coffin.

With the fucking Mjonir. evil grin

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#54724: Apr 7th 2016 at 10:29:05 PM

Civil War would have to be as bad as the comic that inspired it for Batman v. Superman to be competition.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54725: Apr 7th 2016 at 11:00:42 PM

If Civil war is anywhere near the quality of The Winter Soldier, it will crush it at the box office. In this case I will see the movie at least two times (once at the pre-premiere and once in its original language), perhaps a third time with friends.


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