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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#54677: Apr 7th 2016 at 6:23:55 AM

There is such a thing as "correct bias".

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54680: Apr 7th 2016 at 6:30:53 AM

This staff will be responsible should Iron Man fail because they influenced the world against him with their opinion!

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#54681: Apr 7th 2016 at 6:51:54 AM

And they bribed people with their delicious artery-stuffing baked goods!

edited 7th Apr '16 6:53:00 AM by edvedd

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54682: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:15:31 AM

But they might have put out a mandate to only show scenes from the first half of the movie and leave out certain details. Either them or Marvel itself. They after all caught a lot of criticism for showing too much of Ao U last year.

I don't think the trailer has only shown stuff from the first half. I figure stuff like Bucky losing an arm must happen fairly late in the game.

The toys on the other hand...

Though rather pleasantly, they didn't do any toys for Spider-Man, thus keeping his appearance from being Spoiled by the Merchandise.

edited 7th Apr '16 7:16:56 AM by comicwriter

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#54683: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:18:43 AM

TONY NO HAVEN'T YOU LEARN A sexy evil robot is still an evil robot

I'm reminded of that time Tony created an A.I in Pepper's likeness

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#54685: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:44:06 AM

[up][up]Not to mention that time Ultron took over the Iron Man armour (with Tony Stark still inside) and remade himself into Sexy Janet-bot...

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54686: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:44:56 AM

[up][up]

Freeform?

Oh god, let's hope it isn't a shitty romantic drama.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54687: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:45:32 AM

Were Cloak and Dagger romantically involved in the comics?

edited 7th Apr '16 7:46:01 AM by Kostya

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54688: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:54:38 AM

[up][up][up][up] Yesss. Could do with a different channel.

[up] Yeah, at least in the Ultimate universe.

edited 7th Apr '16 7:56:40 AM by yellowturtle

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54689: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:55:07 AM

even as they fall in love.

Whelp, there goes any interest I had in a Cloak and Dagger show.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54690: Apr 7th 2016 at 7:57:07 AM

Damn, I was hoping for a movie. I don't think that they can do the effects convincingly on a TV budget. Hopefully they'll take some serious money into the hand for them, but I doubt it.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54691: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:06:39 AM

I'm guessing super heroin won't be part of their origin this time.

I've a bad feeling about this what with Freeform, the angle and them not even needing a pilot before ordering a season. Did they just want another superhero show?

edited 7th Apr '16 8:13:21 AM by LordofLore

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#54692: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:07:13 AM

If the Flash can be done mostly convincingly every episode, i'm not worried about Cloak and Dagger's effects. However i haven't a clue what freeform typically does and I don't have great familiarity with Cloak and Dagger besides what I've read on Wikipedia about them.

What's Freeform?

edited 7th Apr '16 8:07:38 AM by MousaThe14

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54693: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:11:17 AM

Cloak and Dagger have been in a Will They or Won't They? thing for decades, Depending on the Writer. I think they finally hooked up for real a few years ago.

[up][up]I don't see why it wouldn't. Though they could just have their powers come from dark matter like in the Ultimate universe.

edited 7th Apr '16 8:12:29 AM by comicwriter

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54694: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:11:23 AM

It's the renamed ABC Family. Don't expect any kind of budget for special effects.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54695: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:12:21 AM

[nja]

I'm not familiar with their shows?

edited 7th Apr '16 8:12:43 AM by yellowturtle

Crow: There's a plot?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54696: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:13:24 AM

Cloak and Dagger aren't characters whose powers would be hugely expensive, I don't think. I see energy projectile effects used in just about everything sci-fi related.

edited 7th Apr '16 8:13:59 AM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54697: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:13:24 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] It's basically Disney's cable channel. I have never watched any show on it (they don't have that many originals to begin with, because they mostly air repeats), because what they have doesn't really sound compelling. And considering how fast the cable networks have lost subscribers in the last years, I doubt that they will put the money necessary into the show.

[up] Everything related to light is expensive to do in CGI, when it is supposed to look good an not like the standard energy light they used in sci-fi for ages and which never really looks that convincing. And then there is Cloak.

edited 7th Apr '16 8:15:18 AM by Swanpride

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54698: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:21:18 AM

ABC Family is Freeform now? I thought there was some contract saying they had to keep the word Family in the name.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#54699: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:22:24 AM

Oh I didn't know ABC Family got renamed. I am out of so many loops here at Job Corps.

Anyhow, I'm not worried about effects. I'm just tired of romance in media. But hey if the show can pull it off in a way I like then more power to them. I just didn't think Cloak and Dagger would be, well. I though they'd be more like a Netflix series sort of heroes.

edited 7th Apr '16 8:23:18 AM by MousaThe14

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54700: Apr 7th 2016 at 8:30:36 AM

[up][up] Nah, that turned out to be an urban legend. Once they realized that the word "family" might limiting their audience they rebranded it.

[up] I am not exactly opposed to a well-written romance, but let's face it, so far the MCU has been terrible in writing romance. The only romantic pairing they made me truly invested in is Peggy and Steve, the one pair which can never be together.

edited 7th Apr '16 8:31:58 AM by Swanpride


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