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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54626: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:54:32 AM

I'd love it if they mentioned the Kingpin at some point, even if he doesn't show up directly. Though it'd be a tricky balancing act if he does appear on screen because staying true to his Daredevil characterization would risk disturbing the general-age Spider-Man audience too much, while watering him down to avoid that would also piss off the fans who did get used to him on Daredevil.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54627: Apr 6th 2016 at 12:03:07 PM

They probably aren't gonna have Daredevil in the Spider-Man movie for the same reasons we haven't had any crossover so far.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54628: Apr 6th 2016 at 12:12:17 PM

Marvel/Disney didn't even want Jessica Jones in the Lego game because kids might want to watch her series(which was new then) which is very clearly not for them. She got in as Jewel instead.

I'd sooner expect one of the amazing friends before Daredevil.

edited 6th Apr '16 12:13:01 PM by LordofLore

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54629: Apr 6th 2016 at 12:15:35 PM

[up][up][up]That's my main point of contention.

In my mind, the appeal of Daredevil and the other Defenders shows is that they're very dark, low-key shows that deal with more mature and delicate themes like sexual abuse, domestic violence, etc. They bring something new to the table. I don't see any of that showing up in a Spider-Man movie. That's why the Defenders shows are better off in their own little pocket, living on the edge of the bigger MCU.

edited 6th Apr '16 12:25:36 PM by wehrmacht

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#54630: Apr 6th 2016 at 2:15:20 PM

Chris Evans is thinking about entering politics.

I'd vote for him just for the lulz of having Captain America as the President of the United States.

It helps that he's a supporter of LGBT rights.

edited 6th Apr '16 2:16:30 PM by MadSkillz

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54631: Apr 6th 2016 at 2:19:21 PM

Has he directed a movie of his own yet? I remember he wanted to that full time after leaving the MCU.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54632: Apr 6th 2016 at 2:19:32 PM

I got my ticket today. 27. April! Can't wait.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54633: Apr 6th 2016 at 2:47:17 PM

[up][up]

Yeah, it's called Before We Go but the reception to it was really lukewarm.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54634: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:08:43 PM

"Who's the President in 2025?"

"Chris Evans."

"Chris Evans?! The actor? Who's his Vice President, Ryan Reynolds??"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54635: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:12:40 PM

[up] did you catch a glimpse on the fourth dimension?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54636: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:15:30 PM

Indeed I did. It's from the Back To The Future remake in ten years where Marty McFly travels back to 2005 and Chris Evans is known only as "that guy from the terrible Fantastic Four movie".

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#54637: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:16:17 PM

"Who's the President in 2025?"

"Chris Evans."

"Chris Evans?! The actor? Who's his Vice President, Bucky??"

William Dafoe.

Fix'd.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54638: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:19:25 PM

And so the Dark Reign jokes begin...

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#54639: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:41:03 PM

I can't wait to see our world's version of the Thunderbolts headed by the Vice President including such illustrious members as Kim Jong-un, Old Fidel Castro, Walt Disney's head on a spider robot, Abh Bakr Al-Baghadi and Dick Cheney.

edited 6th Apr '16 3:41:27 PM by MadSkillz

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54641: Apr 6th 2016 at 4:32:26 PM

Twist is that the spider robot is the true villain controlling him.

Eventually he'll have his head go back in time so he can uninvent the robot forever.

Later he'll retire to evenings singing in the Haunted Mansion chorus.

edited 6th Apr '16 4:33:13 PM by Tuckerscreator

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#54642: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:15:30 PM

[up] The twist to the twist though is that the spider bot is actually a Doom Bot and Walt Disney's head is actually just a very dedicated Skrull.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54643: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:38:27 PM

Since when would Walt Disney be the Token Good Teammate?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54644: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:45:11 PM

Well the other ones are genocidal dictators and a war monger. Walt is, at worst, a flawed businessman.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#54645: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:50:26 PM

[up] Well, there was that one time that spider-robot Walt invaded Cuba in order to eat a specific Cuban child who managed to escape his clutches . . ..

But even then, Castro shot both spider-bot-Walt and the kid in the head afterwards. I doubt spider-bot-Walt would be very happy with teaming up with the guy.

edited 6th Apr '16 6:51:33 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54646: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:51:06 PM

[up][up]As far as you know.

The only reason they froze him was because cold temperatures are the only thing that can contain him for long periods of time. Once he thaws out the world is screwed.

edited 6th Apr '16 6:51:39 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54647: Apr 6th 2016 at 6:56:59 PM

Do not make such baseless accusations against a entirely legitimate business man, pal. After all it's such a nice pair of legs you have, It would be a shame if you one day woke up with my boy Goofy smashing them with a comically oversized hammer.

We're watching you, boy.

edited 6th Apr '16 6:57:52 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#54648: Apr 6th 2016 at 7:13:09 PM

I have no idea what you guys are talking about. tongue

Anyways, just came in here to voice my excitement for the Doctor Strange trailer that's being released on Tuesday. It does sound like it's gonna be something special, especially since the team behind it are apparently huge fans of the source material, and have backgrounds in dark horror and fantasy stories.

Really, the only thing that gave me pause was the fact that it was first written by the two beyond bad writers that are Thomas Dean Donnelly and Joshua Oppenheimer, but from what it appears, it seems like the script in its current state was heavily rewritten by Jon Spaihts and C Robert Cargill, who are both extremely talented writers, with the latter having written several novels that deal with stuff like magic and the supernatural. While they have written their fair share of duds (The Darkest Hour and Sinister 2 respectively), those were apparently heavily modified and reshot from their original scripts. Hopefully, they have pulled it off for Doctor Strange.

Thoughts?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54649: Apr 6th 2016 at 9:24:50 PM

Most people agree that the problems with Prometheus had more to do with Lindelof than Spaihts right?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54650: Apr 6th 2016 at 9:36:26 PM

I think there was a leak of a script draft that was written before Lindelof came on the project, which confirmed most people's theories of "the movie was fine and overall coherent until Lindelof muddled it up."


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