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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54601: Apr 5th 2016 at 5:36:30 PM

Just the bald dean guy from Community, kinda like Danny Pudi/Abed as a random SHIELD tech in The Winter Soldier.

Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#54602: Apr 5th 2016 at 5:53:49 PM

wild mass guess Everyone left Greendale to join SHIELD.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#54603: Apr 5th 2016 at 7:32:09 PM

I was thinking, I wonder if Alfre Woodard's character is going to be connected to Spider-Man's appearance in Civil War.

She's supposed to be a New York City politician, and with the headquarters of the Avengers moved upstate, the only obvious connection to New York City is Spider-Man. So maybe she's part of the reason Spider-Man gets on Iron Man's radar, perhaps because she's one of the few people who definitively knows he's even a thing (early reports indicated that Spider-Man would start off being known as an urban legend).

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#54604: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:08:04 PM

Well, um, hold off on that speculation.

It doesn't give a name though, so... maybe?

edited 5th Apr '16 8:13:09 PM by edvedd

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54605: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:30:01 PM

That's disheartening.

That means that even if Luke Cage does make something out of it, it's still just another one of those "the films do the important things while the tv shows have to make due with them" situations that AOS is so familiar with.

[up] But yes, if the film does still identify her character as Mariah Dillard by name (or even in the credits), it would still be a huge step forward.

edited 5th Apr '16 8:31:43 PM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54606: Apr 5th 2016 at 8:33:38 PM

The article speculates that it's likely (if the rumor is true) that she shot her scenes a long while back before even being cast in Luke Cage, so I doubt there's any intended malice.

It also wouldn't be the first case of You Look Familiar in the MCU.

edited 5th Apr '16 8:34:16 PM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54607: Apr 5th 2016 at 9:37:27 PM

It's the first case in a long while, (iirc last time was Sousa, who is at least separated from his bit-part doppleganger by like seventy years) and this is definitely the shortest interval. It's also between characters who are both likely to be noticed (or at least, noticed more than "nameless cop who can't believe there are aliens everywhere") since her character in Civil War appears to be a Small Role, Big Impact sort of thing.

It's possible if not likely that, should her character in Civil War goes unnamed, Luke Cage will just work her appearance in Civil War into Black Mariah's backstory.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54608: Apr 5th 2016 at 10:08:58 PM

Avengers sleep woes.

Also, HAPPY BIRTHDAY HAYLEY ATWELL!!

edited 5th Apr '16 10:09:07 PM by Tuckerscreator

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54609: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:21:51 AM

Something just occurred to me: Agents of Shield just established their rules for time, which boiled down to "you can't change what happens either in the past or in the future". Which, I think is great, because I always get a headache when a show starts playing around with the timeline nilly willy (not to mention that it always causes the questions why characters go back to change certain things, but never bother with others). But what does this mean when the time stone turns up? Does it play by the same rules or is it so powerful because it hasn't have to?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54610: Apr 6th 2016 at 3:32:52 AM

That's pretty much the usual Marvel rules of time travel. You can't change stuff because you just create alternate timelines.

The Time Gem/Stone is mostly used for seeing in the future or slowing down/speeding up time in the comics with its more OP feats being rarely used. Even the wikia just says this:

The time gem allows the user total control over the past, present and future. Its most basic ability grants its user visions of possible futures. It allows time travel, control over the age of beings and also be used as a weapon by trapping enemies or entire worlds in unending loops of time. At its peak, when used with the other gems, it allows its user to exist at all points in time simultaneously.

edited 6th Apr '16 3:34:55 AM by LordofLore

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#54611: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:28:50 AM

Russo Brothers Share Picture of “Dance Scene” Between Winter Soldier and Black Panther

[url]http://www.themarysue.com/black-panther-winter-soldier-fight/[/url]

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#54612: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:37:36 AM

Woodard's character sounds like Miriam Sharpe from the comics.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54613: Apr 6th 2016 at 5:50:56 AM

The best part of it was how worried some of the fans were about the backpack after Sebastian Stan said that it contains notes about everything Bucky remembers.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#54616: Apr 6th 2016 at 9:33:37 AM

On another site, someone had the idea that the kid in this video from Iron Man 2 is Peter Parker. It could make sense. Stark Expo was in Queens and the age looks about right.

Make mine Marvel.
yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54617: Apr 6th 2016 at 9:39:28 AM

It could be him now, but I'm sure that's not what the movie was going for in 2008, seven years before Sony decided to share.

Crow: There's a plot?
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#54618: Apr 6th 2016 at 9:40:48 AM

Maybe it's Reality Is Unrealistic at play, but I think that kid looks too young to be Peter Parker 5 years ago when Iron Man 2 happened in-universe.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54619: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:07:59 AM

Next week is a big Marvel promotion on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

Monday is Team Cap, Wednesday is Team Iron Man, and Tuesday is the Doctor Strange trailer premier.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54620: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:08:42 AM

Wow, I was expecting another month at least for a trailer.

edited 6th Apr '16 11:08:56 AM by yellowturtle

Crow: There's a plot?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54621: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:15:19 AM

They probably want to play it before CW.

eligram Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: In denial
#54622: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:15:20 AM

Regarding either Iron Man or Cap showing in the new Spiderman movie, I believe it would be a better idea to include Daredevil instead. Not only it would be cheaper for Sony to get him in the movie, but also the hype that it would be the first crossover between the tv shows and the movies universe would really help the sales. Also, I think those two would bond really well, as they have so much in common, what with them being the only ones with secret identities, figthing crime more or less in the same style, and with Daredevil having expierence in it, he could be kind of a mentor to Spidey.

What do you guys think?

edited 6th Apr '16 11:23:42 AM by eligram

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54623: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:20:06 AM

I love it. Daredevil and Spidey have good reason to co-exist as well. Given that they should be able to sense each other's heroics.

I think probably it's a higher priority to establish Spidey's MASSIVE supporting cast in his first movie though.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54624: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:30:22 AM

Peter and Matt have crossed over with so many that it's tradition to crossover with them at least once in each hero's career.

Movie/TV crossovers are unlikely though.

edited 6th Apr '16 12:09:57 PM by LordofLore

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#54625: Apr 6th 2016 at 11:52:56 AM

When I think of Marvel characters who crossover a lot, Spidey obviously comes to mind first, but after that, I think it would be Aunt Petunia's favorite nephew.

Make mine Marvel.

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