TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Go To

Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54476: Apr 3rd 2016 at 1:53:47 PM

Ant-Man and Winter Soldier had good in-universe justifications. Thor 2 could go either way but you'd think at least one of them would show up to give some last minute help. Iron Man 3 you could justify but it requires a few mental gymnastics for it.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54477: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:24:01 PM

It helps that there is currently only one super sonic superhero who could just turn up where ever trouble starts.

And that guy is Tony Stark. Who spent all of phase two retired.

Warmachine is also presumably fast, but he spent phase 2 in the employment of the US government and couldn't just turn up where ever.

Captain Marvel will be a spanner in the works if course, and it looks like War Machine is no longer military?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54478: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:28:53 PM

[up][up][up] There is also a little bit filmed, and it looks like there will be some awesome effects when the movie is actually finished. The way the actors move looks very magical.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54479: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:33:02 PM

I just realized something: With General Ross in Civil War, do you think there might be a brief mention of Betty?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54480: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:35:57 PM

I thought Betty fell into a black hole.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54481: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:36:54 PM

I thought the whole movie did, but apparently not....

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#54482: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:44:50 PM

Betty's not showing up again.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54483: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:47:35 PM

I know she isn't showing up, I just hope there's a brief mention of her.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54484: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:49:20 PM

She won't. If there's going to be a Red She-Hulk in the MCU it'll be someone different.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54485: Apr 3rd 2016 at 2:50:56 PM

I just said I wanted a brief mention of her. Just a little bit of dialogue mentioning her. I'm not saying she'll be back, I highly doubt Liv Tyler is coming back.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54486: Apr 3rd 2016 at 3:07:34 PM

Liv Tyler is always unlucky with roles.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54487: Apr 3rd 2016 at 3:55:31 PM

Strange and The Oath.

I recommended it to everyone here back when the movie was announced as the number 1 story to read if you wanted a tale with Strange.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:01:45 PM by LordofLore

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54488: Apr 3rd 2016 at 3:56:59 PM

I've read that. It was a good comic.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54489: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:15:28 PM

She won't. If there's going to be a Red She-Hulk in the MCU it'll be someone different.

We haven't even gotten the real She-Hulk or any other Hulk creatures other than Abomination, so I don't think there's any chance for Red She-Hulk in the foreseeable future.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54490: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:15:54 PM

The Oath is one of the best Doctor Strange stories. It explores Strange's physical trauma, how he merges medicine and sorcery (in fact the title is a Double-Meaning Title, and alludes to, amongst other things, the fact Strange upholds both his oath as the Sorcerer Supreme and the Hippocratic Oath), his iron-clad friendship with Wong, Wong's own turmoils and epicness, it has a pretty cool romance between Strange and the night nurse and a pretty interesting general conflict between science and magic (as well as the unexpected intersections between science and magic like Strange himself). It also has a fun display of both Strange's greatest weakness and triumphs.

It's also, most amusingly, the story Strange is repeatedly compared to Sherlock Holmes as he tries deducing who's the villain behind it all.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:16:33 PM by Gaon

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54492: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:25:37 PM

I actually thought the romance between Strange and Night Nurse was one of the weaker aspects of The Oath. She's still a petty cool character though, and made for a decent Audience Surrogate amidst some of the... strangeness. I dunno, I'm all for guys being close without having to be considered lovers but Wong and Strange just seemed like the more apparent couple to me.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:26:35 PM by AlleyOop

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54493: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:27:16 PM

Thinking of it, where the blue Hell is Wong in this movie? He's such a cool character.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54494: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:31:06 PM

[up]Benedict Wong is playing him but that's about it for now.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54495: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:31:59 PM

He's there, but without too much fanfare. Benedict Wong is a pretty good actor from what I saw of him in The Martian and snippets of Marco Polo, but they've been sparing in terms of what he might be like for this film. I'm surprised they didn't cast a younger and more athletic looking actor for him though.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54496: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:33:42 PM

I think they also cast someone to play Nicodemus West who readers of The Oath might remember. If they're saving Mordo turning evil for the next movie West is probably one of the human villains in this one which would sort of keep with the Marvel tradition of the first villain being a evil variation on the hero.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:44:39 PM by LordofLore

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#54497: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:37:55 PM

[up]x4 He was cast, we know that much.

I'm sure we'll at least get a look at him in the teaser, which if my calculations are right should be coming out just before Civil War hits theaters. Marvel seems to prefer dropping the first teaser roughly 6 months before a movie comes out, and Civil War comes out roughly 6 months before Doctor Strange.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:38:11 PM by Falrinn

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#54498: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:43:59 PM

Man, having two Benedicts, as well as one of them having the same last name as his own character's name, has got to be confusing.

edited 3rd Apr '16 4:46:00 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54499: Apr 3rd 2016 at 4:47:22 PM

IIRC Benedict Wong was also cast fairly late into the shoot, so I think his role won't be huge. Hell it looks like from the photos Mordo might be filling his role as Strange's partner to some degree.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54500: Apr 3rd 2016 at 9:05:15 PM

That seems kind of strange to me if it's true the film is supposed to be based on The Oath, as opposed to just taking elements from it and possibly setting up for a proper adaptation of it in the sequel. Seeing as Wong is Strange's primary motivation for the plot in the first place.


Total posts: 186,763
Top