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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#54401: Apr 2nd 2016 at 12:44:16 PM

A lot of those things are the best parts of the movie too. I'm sure Wright's would have been a competently made movie but nothing has convinced me that it would be better than what we got.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54402: Apr 2nd 2016 at 12:45:47 PM

Hell, the Wasp barely figured into his draft, from my understanding.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54403: Apr 2nd 2016 at 12:47:36 PM

She was the female lead but we know nothing else about her in the Wright script. Both her and Luis were cast before Wright left.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54404: Apr 2nd 2016 at 12:48:31 PM

Yes, but their actors got a say in their characters' dialogue and had expanded roles from the original draft.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54405: Apr 2nd 2016 at 1:21:38 PM

There were a bunch of cast actors who left when Wright did, some claim in solidarity with Wright though I question that. Did we ever find out what they were supposed to be?

I believe TI and Dastmalchian were cast after he left but I can't be so sure.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54406: Apr 2nd 2016 at 1:22:25 PM

One of them was to play Crossfire, but left due to a scheduling conflict.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54407: Apr 2nd 2016 at 1:31:38 PM

I guess he wasn't too invested in the character then.

Definitely not caught up in the Crossfire

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#54408: Apr 2nd 2016 at 1:57:49 PM

Boo. All the Boos.

Seriously, I'm so full of Boos I'll be shitting sooB all day.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#54409: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:00:04 PM

[up]Did anyone else just think of Luigi's Mansion?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54410: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:38:22 PM

Wait, the quantum realm wasn't in the original script?

Damn, that'd be disappointing. That drug trip sequence was the best part.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54411: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:45:24 PM

As far as I know in the original script Janet was dead. No backdoor to bring her back in future movies, simply dead.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54412: Apr 2nd 2016 at 2:55:08 PM

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#54413: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:03:06 PM

goddamn they look great.

I didn't think Benedict was going to be able to pull the look off but he does somehow.

Still....something about him not having black hair bothers me. Oh well. Dark brown is close enough.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54414: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:06:40 PM

There was probably no back door to bring Janet in because remember, Wright originally wrote his film as a standalone with no connection to the MCU. Wasp was probably not on his radar.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54415: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:10:32 PM

[up][up]That's how I felt when I saw the set photos too. I never had any fears about his acting ability, but didn't know if I could really see him as Stephen Strange. I'm kind of surprised at how well he pulls the look off, honestly.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#54416: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:30:58 PM

[up][up] And I'm still mystified that he didn't consider Janet Van Dyne interesting enough to put in the film.

Oh God! Natural light!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54417: Apr 2nd 2016 at 3:48:06 PM

A trait he shares with marvel currently

HAHA ZING

=(

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54418: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:03:59 PM

Which is why I think that Wright not doing the movie is actually a good thing. How can you do a movie about Ant-man and not having the Wasp on the radar? Especially since I suspect that a lot of fans like her better than him.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#54419: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:05:28 PM

I mean, I think his previous body of work provides a fairly straightforward explanation for why he wouldn't find the Wasp interesting, but we've had that conversation already. tongue

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54421: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:09:44 PM

Personally, Benedict in that outfit is giving me an unstoppable laughter. The suit itself is great, but something about Benedict makes it look so ridiculous. [lol]

Then again, he IS a poor dresser. evil grin

Continuously reading, studying, and (hopefully) growing.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54422: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:33:48 PM

[up][up] Says you need to log on to see the pics.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54423: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:37:59 PM

[up] Sorry, I keep forgetting not to link to the reader. I corrected the link.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54424: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:49:54 PM

And I'm still mystified that he didn't consider Janet Van Dyne interesting enough to put in the film.

Both he and Simon Pegg have admitted that they don't do a particularly good job of writing women, and that it's something they've both been trying to work on recently.

If you look at the protagonists in most of Wright's movies, they generally share the same basic traits, with the possible exception of Hot Fuzz.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#54425: Apr 2nd 2016 at 4:52:54 PM

I would love to see where Wright both actively concedes his track record with female characters is a bit shit and says he wants to get better.

Star Trek Beyond is adding more female characters than either Abrams film combined, so I'm pretty convinced Pegg knows where his issues are.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

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