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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54351: Apr 1st 2016 at 11:48:39 AM

I have heard a rumour how Civil war will end:

Tony is about to kill Steve but then he realizes that both their best friends share James as first name.

Sorry, couldn't resist....

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Funny but not helpful
#54352: Apr 1st 2016 at 11:50:29 AM

boo

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#54356: Apr 1st 2016 at 12:23:26 PM

Does anyone know when starts filming Thor Ragnarok?

PS: It would be a strange twist, if it turns out that Cate Blanchett isn't Hela, but Karnilla.

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#54357: Apr 1st 2016 at 1:29:10 PM

[up][up]It's true. That's why Disney's had to resort to crazy loopholes like: when they unveiled an Avengers train skin for Walt Disney World, their contract with Universal said no Marvel rides in Disney World. So Disney decided to consider "Disney World" as "The Magic Kingdom" and had the train circle around EPCOT without actually entering the park.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#54359: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:04:49 PM

She played the Sand Snake in GOT that was just there, right? She wasn't the leader or the one who showed her boobs but was always in the background(she "fought"(the fight scene was awful)with a whip IIRC).

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#54360: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:05:29 PM

Oh god why.

Really? Another GOT actor who has no idea how to stage fight in Iron Fist?

... not to mention the whole But Not Too Foreign thing of casting a half-Asian as Colleen. That's just... really surprising.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54361: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:13:37 PM

Colleen Wing is already half Asian dude.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54362: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:17:48 PM

Yeah Colleen has always been mixed. That's why she has red hair and the decidedly un-Japanese name "Colleen".

edited 1st Apr '16 2:18:02 PM by comicwriter

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#54363: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:19:07 PM

But the thing is, considering how... awkward the Netflix shows have been with Asians right now (with Daredevil being borderline Yellow Peril, and the cries for Danny to be played by an Asian), it's genuinely surprising they didn't go with a full blooded Asian Actress for this part.

... my main point remains, though. Seriously. I would've happily had her played by a black woman if she could fight.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54364: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:21:03 PM

That just seems like splitting hairs, tbh. There's a lot of things you can critique the MCU on, but being mad about them hiring a mixed actress to play a mixed character seems like looking for something to complain about.

Marvel posted this about her casting.

edited 1st Apr '16 2:27:13 PM by comicwriter

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#54365: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:27:04 PM

“And as anyone who’s seen her in ‘Game of Thrones’ can attest, she can throw down with the best of them, making her the perfect Colleen Wing.”

I will say that I thought the character was at least 3/4 Asian. I know she's Japanese on her mother's side, but her last name is Wing, which I mostly know as a Chinese name.

And seriously. I'm more surprised at the casting in terms of race. Seems like a no-brainer for them. I'm not complaining, just surprised. Given they're starting to take heat for the aforementioned Unfortunate Implications, I'd think they'd take the easy way out on this one.

I am complaining they again chose someone who can't fight. Seriously. They genuinely couldn't find an actress I want to see fight less.

edited 1st Apr '16 2:29:25 PM by Larkmarn

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54366: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:29:02 PM

The thing that bothers me the most is that she played one of the much loathed and terribly acted Sand Snakes, and while a lot of people like Jessika Pava she didn't do much of note besides look cool. Not necessarily terrible, but not the strongest resume either. Though she apparently did learn to use the whip for Game of Thrones, which is better than nothing.

Anyway as one of the people who liked the idea of Danny Rand being Asian, if the rumors that Shang Chi is going to be in the show are true then I'll be OK with him being white.

[up]Regarding "Wing", it's not a word that exists in Mandarin, and it's way more common as a first name than a last name in Cantonese. Can't speak for other varieties of Chinese, but it's kinda like how some people think Long is a common Chinese name when some people do have it but it's usually found with Anglo-Saxons like Huey Long.

edited 1st Apr '16 2:46:09 PM by AlleyOop

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54367: Apr 1st 2016 at 2:29:14 PM

[up][up]Not really. Wing is an English surname as well.

Given they're starting to take heat for the aforementioned Unfortunate Implications, I'd think they'd take the easy way out on this one.

The only way this somehow plays into that is if you're suggesting being mixed race makes you less of a person of color, which is a whole other explosive can of worms.

edited 1st Apr '16 2:37:12 PM by comicwriter

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#54368: Apr 1st 2016 at 3:00:54 PM

[up][up] I really only know about the Sand Snakes thing second hand, but was that really her fault? If it was such a poorly received fight across the board, then maybe it was a directling issue?

Oh God! Natural light!
yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#54369: Apr 1st 2016 at 3:04:25 PM

I'm sure Marvel will have her learn a bit of mixed martial arts.

[down][lol]

[down][down][awesome]

edited 1st Apr '16 3:33:41 PM by yellowturtle

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#54371: Apr 1st 2016 at 3:28:50 PM

Love it. Fits his character perfectly. Some might say that they're dumbing it down, but I think the purple face paint and tiara works much better than the normal costume.

edited 1st Apr '16 3:29:47 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#54373: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:15:34 PM

I'm watching Ant-Man right now. Oh gosh, I love Luis.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#54374: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:23:47 PM

Luis really stole the show.

Especially his story where he provides the voice for everyone.

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#54375: Apr 1st 2016 at 7:25:44 PM

He was barely in Edgar Wright's draft of the film, if I recall correctly. Kind of glad Wright got the boot in retrospect.

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