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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#54176: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:19:00 PM

Don't know. I refuse to watch it, considering Age of Ultron is my favorite movie ever.

edited 30th Mar '16 3:19:32 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54177: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:22:16 PM

As for me, it's up there in my least favorite MCU movies, along with Iron Man 2. tongue

Just to clarify, I'm not saying that it's bad, just that I don't like it as much as other ones.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54178: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:25:23 PM

I think the last straw for me was when they complained that "Bucky got his own wing in the Smithsonian", despite the fact that we see clearly at the beginning of the movie that this is a Captain America Exhibit which happens to have a very small section to Captain America's best friend and only Howling Commander who died in the line of duty. I have since then not watched another one of those...I was annoyed by their sexist running joke either way.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54179: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:27:15 PM

hell they enjoy mad max as everyone else and yet they point out the plot is pretty much "mario kart in hell"

What does that even mean

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54180: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:28:26 PM

[up] The movie is basically one chase scene with cars...like Mario cart, only that the explosions have worse effects.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54181: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:29:27 PM

That's not what plot means.

THATS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT PLOT MEANS.

Also: Mario Kart is an organized race, not a chase. There are trophies handed out. And a turtle on a cloud with a fishing pole.

edited 30th Mar '16 3:30:24 PM by Bocaj

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54182: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:31:13 PM

Random thought, speaking of Bucky.

Can you imagine how screwed Captain America would have been if when he threw the shield and Bucky caught it, the latter just took the shield and ran off? [lol]

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54183: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:32:27 PM

[up] You watched Hishe, didn't you?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54185: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:35:15 PM

Actually no, I didn't know there even was one. I don't keep up with that as much as I do with Cinemasins and Honest Trailers. [lol]

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#54186: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:36:26 PM

I know it might be lowbrow, but I hoped Spider-Man does.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54187: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:36:43 PM

[up][up] Oh, you missed out, that was one of the better ones...but then, it is always fun to be in the supercafe. Can't wait for the next one....

edited 30th Mar '16 3:36:54 PM by Swanpride

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54188: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:38:37 PM

Just watched it. Gave me a good laugh. [lol]

edited 30th Mar '16 3:38:55 PM by dRoy

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#54189: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:49:39 PM

Considering how much hype HISHE had for Batman v. Superman and how enormously disappointing I've heard it is, How Batman v. Superman Should've Ended will be EPIC. Civil War's inevitable gloating in the cafe will be great too.

edited 30th Mar '16 3:50:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#54190: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:52:16 PM

I just rewatched the Age of Ultron one. The part in which (reference to Bv S) Superman talks about Batman's parents bleeding is now unintentional hilarious.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#54191: Mar 30th 2016 at 3:53:20 PM

Civil War is the only "big team up movie" I'm interested in as far as Marvel's slate is concerned. I have more of a preference for smaller character-driven stuff so the business with the gems and Thanos doesn't really do much to get me excited. If the Russos are behind any more films in the future however, I will probably still watch those.

Otherwise, as I've said like twice before now, I'm more excited for the Defenders teamup since the characters there have an opportunity to be way more fleshed out and the darker themes and atmosphere makes it more interesting.

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#54192: Mar 30th 2016 at 4:03:09 PM

Can you imagine how screwed Captain America would have been if when he threw the shield and Bucky caught it, the latter just took the shield and ran off? [lol]

That is true, though I and some other tropers discussed this on the Winter Soldier headscratchers page one time and concluded: 1. Bucky threw it back so that the impact would slow Cap down, & 2. Bucky probably doesn't know yet that the shield is one of a kind. For all he knows, this is a time period where everyone fights with giant frisbees.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54193: Mar 30th 2016 at 4:13:26 PM

My main beef with Cinema Sins is that I just don't find them very funny or clever so I have no interest in watching any of their vids. Aside from that I don't have much opinion of them.

MedusaStone Since: Jan, 2015
#54194: Mar 30th 2016 at 4:34:34 PM

There was some speculation about who was going to die, and I had a thought. Rather than going with the obvious (Rhodey), or sticking with the comic (Steve), I have a different take: Bucky dies. For real this time.

Here's my scenario: They've had a big battle with no clear winners, but a lot for hurt people. This leads in to the part of the comic where Steve is surrendering because his actions are doing more harm than good. The rest of Team Cap is with him. Everyone is unarmed, because they're surrendering. Bucky and Clint, being who they are, spot the sniper a bare second before the shot is fired. Clint shouts a warning, but Bucky, being right next to Steve does the only thing he can do: he steps in and takes the bullet for him. It is instantly fatal. Chaos and shock ensue.

This could even lead in to something like a hint of Sam taking over as Captain America for a while. Steve takes off because he's finally had enough of unquestionably sacrificing everything for a world that clearly doesn't want or need him nearly as much as he was led to believe it did, maybe after one last talk/confrontation with Stark, who is almost as devastated as Steve, because contrary to popular thought, he never wanted anyone dead. Cut to Sam some time later. He's gearing up to fight, because Bad Things are still happening, and people like him still have to stop them. On his way out he stops and looks at something: the shield Steve put in his hands for safe keeping. Looks back at a monitor showing the situation he's about to fly into, which makes a point of showing there are lots of projectiles flying around. Looks back at the shield. Smiles a little to himself, nods, and picks it up, putting it on his arm and taking it with him.

Or maybe I'm full of shit; I guess we'll have to wait and see. It's just, everyone's expecting dead!Steve, and a lot of people are hoping it leads to Cap!Bucky. But the death of Steve seems too obvious to me, and it looks to me like they're (the movie folks) playing up Bucky's instability. I think it would take years of recovery before he was fit to be Cap, assuming he ever was. And I seem to recall someone in this very thread saying that the whole point of the Cap!Bucky arc was to show that Bucky's skill set and mentality were absolutely not suited for Captain America, which is why he was more than happy to give the shield back when Steve came back form the dead (well, I'm sure he was also thrilled because Steve came back form the dead!).

And, remember we're leading in to Infinity War (which I know nothing about). That seems like an 'all hands on deck' situation. I can see going into a fight like that without Bucky. but without Steve?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54195: Mar 30th 2016 at 4:56:46 PM

TBH I would not be surprised if the Shocking Swerve is Bucky dying. I just can't see them getting rid of Steve going into Infinity War, and there's no confirmation there's gonna be a 4th Cap movie right now.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54196: Mar 30th 2016 at 4:58:00 PM

I doubt it. Sebastian Stan was signed onto a nine-film contract and we haven't had a single prequel film in the MCU yet, which suggests they have a long-term plan for his character. Also a lot of interviews on what his character will be like in the movie seems to indicate it'll be the start of a major character arc for him.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54197: Mar 30th 2016 at 5:25:24 PM

Contracts don't necessarily equal survival. People keep citing Aaron Johnson's contract as proof Quicksilver isn't dead even though everyone else involved has said he's gone.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#54198: Mar 30th 2016 at 5:29:17 PM

Or even more egregiously, Thomas Kreschmann, who portrayed the In Name Only version of Von Strucker in Age of Ultron also had a multi movie contract.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#54199: Mar 30th 2016 at 6:07:06 PM

I honestly don't expect any of the nine characters to die.

I expect SOMEONE will end up locked up in the raft though.

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