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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54101: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:02:14 PM

When it comes to romance in the MCU, Pepper/Tony and Peggy/Steve are still the best, even if the latter ended up not becoming a thing (though imo the layer of tragedy there definitely adds to it). Unsurprisingly they both originated in the best phase 1 films.

It's kind of weird to think about actually because the bar for romance in movies has definitely been raised in the last decade or so. Looking back to some of the movies in the 2000's, their romance is usually one of the weaker points.Having a bland mandatory love interest really just doesn't cut it anymore. You might as well not even have one by that point.

edited 29th Mar '16 3:04:26 PM by wehrmacht

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#54102: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:02:50 PM

Depends on what they do with DA position.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54103: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:04:28 PM

[up][up]it help Pe and Tony barely have dramatic scene so her as romantic parner is just there, with more scene as compentent CEO

edited 29th Mar '16 3:04:40 PM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#54104: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:05:08 PM

You know, at least where the movies are concerned, there's not a single romance I found remotely shippable.

...Does Tony/Bruce or Tony/Steve count? tongueevil grin

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54105: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:06:16 PM

[up]Tony/Steve is the only one worth countingtongue

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#54106: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:06:23 PM

I'm more invested in Bucky and Steve than I am with a lot of the romances in the MCU if I'm perfectly honest.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54107: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:08:20 PM

[up]Nonsense! Steve care about Tony, he is now just confusedevil grin

Yeah, the comic already ramp up their ho yay into the roof, can the movie up that?

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54108: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:09:27 PM

I like to imagine Civil War as a violent love triangle between Tony/Steve/Bucky. evil grin

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54109: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:11:05 PM

[up]Wait, are you saying that is not the case?tongue

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54110: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:21:07 PM

Give me a try of your Tony/Steve shipping goggles, because I just can't for the love of Odin see it in the movies.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
Philosophy Enthusiast
#54111: Mar 29th 2016 at 3:28:39 PM

I'm not generally a shipper, but I ship Foggy/Karen.

Make mine Marvel.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#54113: Mar 29th 2016 at 4:06:16 PM

That's getting into the spirits of things

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dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#54114: Mar 29th 2016 at 4:13:35 PM

I ship Loki and Lorelei.

I don't care if his "canon" wife is Sigyn.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54116: Mar 29th 2016 at 5:01:30 PM

I ship DUM-E/Thanos. Opposites attract.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#54117: Mar 29th 2016 at 5:06:51 PM

Loki and Lorelei were together for a bit during the Simonson era.

Although mostly because Lorelei had been brainjacked by Amora into finding Loki the sexiest thing since sex as revenge for her spending her time pining over Thor instead of helping fight a demon army threatening to destroy all of existence.

And Loki rolled with it because swiggity swooty, I guess.

He eventually threw her out when she was tricked into drugging his drink as part of a plot by Malekith to pretend to be Balder so he could take the throne of Asgard and pretending Loki was Malekith so nobody would suspect a thing.

Norse gods. More like soap opera stars.

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dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#54118: Mar 29th 2016 at 5:49:15 PM

A doubt

How is the relationship of Loki with his wife (Sigyn) in the comics?

edited 29th Mar '16 5:49:37 PM by dantecito

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#54119: Mar 29th 2016 at 7:21:57 PM

Sigyn hasn't been seen in quite some time. Which is kind of why I'm surprised whenever someone mentions her.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#54120: Mar 29th 2016 at 8:06:00 PM

I'd be deeply amused if in the next movie they had Sigyn appear, and Loki says something like "As You Know Thor, I've been married for centuries. I just wanted to bring it up for current plot reasons."

Watch the shippers explode with me, friends!

edited 29th Mar '16 8:06:34 PM by KnownUnknown

czhang from Canada Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#54121: Mar 29th 2016 at 8:08:38 PM

Would they even be considered married anymore? Loki's died and been replaced by another Loki twice at this point.

Man, what if Asgardian weddings take reincarnation into account? "Until death your body and soul is entirely eradicated from this universe do us part"

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#54122: Mar 29th 2016 at 8:36:19 PM

"Norse gods. More like soap opera stars. "

that someone correct me if Im wrong but didnt loki in the myth reveal everyone affair at some point? just asking

[up][up]Oh boy, I would how Loki/Thor fangirls call her a slut and beg the writers to kill her....it would be glorious.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#54123: Mar 29th 2016 at 8:51:46 PM

It'd be a hilarioius troll move, but the risk of subjecting some poor woman to horrendous abuse from the fangirls and the audience to a Romantic Plot Tumor might not be worth it.

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#54124: Mar 29th 2016 at 9:17:42 PM

Random rambling.

One of my favorite jokes involving MCU is:

"Captain America's shield is made of Vibranium. Hawkeye's shield is made of Quicksilver."

It just never gets old for me. [lol]

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#54125: Mar 29th 2016 at 9:35:23 PM

I shouldn't have laughed at that. But I did. I am now a supervillain.

edited 29th Mar '16 9:35:43 PM by Tuckerscreator


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