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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#53876: Mar 25th 2016 at 11:45:47 AM

Bendis, I believe, even tried this with Wolverine and Squirrel Girl.

Thankfully later retconned in the best way

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#53877: Mar 25th 2016 at 11:46:30 AM

I dunno if it was Bendis but I did see that particular page yes.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53878: Mar 25th 2016 at 11:50:55 AM

Boop.

It was from New Avengers #7 so that was Bendis. Geez Bendis.

She even appeared in his Sexual Fantasies room. Which is... yeah.

edited 25th Mar '16 11:52:38 AM by Bocaj

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53879: Mar 25th 2016 at 12:05:19 PM

Wait, Cap and Wanda have been a romantic couple in the comics ?? Was this before or after Wanda and Vision's marriage and children?

Way after her kids died, probably at least 15 years real world time. And it wasn't a real relationship. The writer wanted it to be, but then Avengers Disassembled happened, so he revealed the whole thing was Wanda using her powers to mess with Steve's mind.

edited 25th Mar '16 12:15:27 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53880: Mar 25th 2016 at 12:53:23 PM

Totally random thoughts: I loved Luke Cage complaining about the holes in his clothes because that was something which always bothered me about characters like Superman and Supergirl. They always seem to have bulletproof clothing.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#53881: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:08:48 PM

Didn't they give an explanation about this for Kryptonians? Like Superman's suit being an armor in the New 52, or in pre-New 52 his power creating a short-range forcefield that protect his clothes?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53882: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:12:12 PM

Depending on the Writer, the suit is often described as being some ultra-durable Kryptonian fabric that was in the ship he was sent to Earth in, or is super strong as the result of being exposed to Earth's yellow sun.

edited 25th Mar '16 1:14:42 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53883: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:16:12 PM

Does the explanation that his cape was made from the swaddling cloth of his pod still hold true?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53884: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:22:05 PM

Note Marvel does the same thing usually. They'll have people that look like normal spandex or fabric and then say the suits aren't destroyed because of Unstable Molecules or something.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53885: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:22:35 PM

Hay Bocaj, do you know who the woman with unusually many limbs is? She's the only one I can't ID.

In terms Shipping in the MCU, the only people I ship is Sam/Steve, Howard Stark/Steve, Foggy/Marci and Jessica Jones/Luke Cage.

Well also Jessica Jones/Patricia Walker, but that's my guilty pleasure.

I want Wanda's kids to exist at some point, but the relationship which causes it isn't that important to me.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53887: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:29:00 PM

Which Marvel characters other than Luke Cage are bulletproof? None of the ones in the MCU are....

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53888: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:31:05 PM

Actually, Thor and Hulk (both comics and not) are bulletproof. Iron Man's suit of armor is also bulletproof for smaller callibers.

Most (though definitely not all) people with superstrength in the comics tend to be bulletproof or at least bullet-resistant.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53889: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:31:41 PM

We haven't seen Thor shot by bullets, but I think it's likely he's bulletproof. Loki when being shot at the start of The Avengers was bulletproof, though I think one brief wound flash on his head suggest it might be more like a super Healing Factor.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53890: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:34:06 PM

Hulk is a subset of this too. His pants always magically survive and you just accept it. I think that's why he's supposed to be wearing specially made Avengers pants in AOU, even if it's never said onscreen.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#53891: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:35:29 PM

I don't recognize many arm woman.

Its either Spiral as suggested or Logan really likes MK's Shokans. In his genital parts.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53892: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:36:19 PM

What for? The Incredible Hulks shows in great detail that he tends to buy stretchy pants....

Either way, since he doesn't wear any clothes otherwise, we have never seen Thor getting shot, and Iron man's armour (as well as the paint on Cap's shield) actually does show traces when they are getting shot at, my point still stands.

edited 25th Mar '16 1:37:57 PM by Swanpride

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53893: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:38:56 PM

I think a few shots from the jet bounce off Thor in the Avengers.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#53894: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:40:18 PM

I like how during the finale of Daredevil's second season he stops giving a shit about Punisher's lethal methods and graciously accepts his cover fire while moving forward to kill Nobu himself.

[up]During Age of Ultron he leaps out of the way of the hijacked Quinjet's bullets so I assume he's not completely bulletproof, else he'd have flown up against them to destroy it.

edited 25th Mar '16 1:59:23 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53895: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:43:03 PM

Maybe he's bulletresistant but they still hurt like a bitch.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53896: Mar 25th 2016 at 1:49:03 PM

Thor absorbs a shit load of punishment that would outright kill a normal person and he rarely has serious injuries or clothing damage. It's not too much of a leap to suggest bullets wouldn't do much to hurt him.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#53897: Mar 25th 2016 at 2:12:40 PM

Isn't Captain Marvel bulletproof?

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53898: Mar 25th 2016 at 2:16:47 PM

Asgardians can still be stabbed. So I don't think their skin impossible to break. They can tank a whole lot of blunt trauma sure, but I think a bullet still has some potential against them.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53899: Mar 25th 2016 at 2:26:26 PM

Was Thor ever stabbed by non-Asgardian beings though? The only time I can think of was Loki.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53900: Mar 25th 2016 at 3:49:45 PM

Never, but it still means something with enough force can wound him. Even if the human equivalent would have to be a javelin attached to a charging tank.


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