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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#53801: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:52:11 PM

It would be pretty funny (and maybe even, dare I say it, cathartic) if Civil War ends up succeeding in the areas where BVS failed.

edited 23rd Mar '16 8:25:06 PM by LDragon2

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#53802: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:56:37 PM

A lot of the early Batman v Superman reviews are really harsh and negative. I think Civil War is gonna easily outclass it.

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#53803: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:57:38 PM

[up][up] No, that's too predictable. The only way it could ever be funny is if Civil War ends up with the exact same problems as BvS and cause speculations of an approaching superhero movie market crash to rise. Of course, we shouldn't that happen to begin with.

edited 23rd Mar '16 7:57:48 PM by Shadao

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#53804: Mar 23rd 2016 at 7:58:27 PM

Let's leave the speculation on Marvel failing to Cracked.com.

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Shadao Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins. (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Dorzma Forever! Artwork by Kris Dobbins.
#53805: Mar 23rd 2016 at 8:00:06 PM

Which is why I say that we shouldn't let that happen.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53806: Mar 24th 2016 at 12:28:17 AM

As I said before, I don't want to be in the place a lot of "I don't care what you say, those trailers are awesome and the movie will be awesome" fans are now. Granted, there is no reason to worry too much. Bv S was made by the same team which made Man of Steel, Civil war is made by the same team which made The Winter Soldier. This alone should prelude an outright bomb. There is also the fact that, despite what some people claim, the trailers for Bv S looked bad. Aside from the scene with Bruce Wayne staring at the destruction of his building, they were full of overblown imaginary, had a villain who didn't convince in the scene he showed up and then there was the controversial second trailer which was badly cut in itself. So far, the marketing campaign for Civil war has been flawless, and what I have seen of the movie - the emotional aspects of it, the believable conflict, peppered with some fan service but not so much that I fear that the whole movie will be fan-service (which was one of my worries concerning Age of Ultron) - this all looks like a movie I want to see.

It should be okay. But I hope it will be more than that. I expect another Winter Soldier, and I might get disappointed in this regard.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53807: Mar 24th 2016 at 6:55:05 AM

International trailer with some new footage.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53808: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:21:16 AM

Not really...they only spliced some footage we have already seen elsewhere in....not that I am complaining...the less I know going into this movie the better, and I have zero self-control.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53809: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:23:52 AM

That bit was only in the leaked D23 footage, which not everyone saw.

edited 24th Mar '16 7:46:15 AM by comicwriter

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53810: Mar 24th 2016 at 8:01:22 AM

An eagle eyed viewer pointed out it also looks like they went back and omitted a spoilery background detail.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53811: Mar 24th 2016 at 8:03:31 AM

The Captain Britain thing explained. It was part of a pitch reel someone was making for Marvel and they hired a professional poster artist to do work for it.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53813: Mar 24th 2016 at 10:16:25 AM

Also considered to be so incompetent that he was already showing up on Worst US President Ever less than 50 years after his election, someone who actively prolonged the institution of slavery, and only probably rather than definitely gay.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53814: Mar 24th 2016 at 10:22:54 AM

I have a vague memory that Bucky was named this way as a reminder what he should avoid to be or something like this.....

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#53815: Mar 24th 2016 at 1:49:53 PM

I'm sure there's other examples, but my guess would be that Bucky's name is a similar deal to that of Hawkeye- the one from Mash, not the MCU one.

His full name is Benjamin Franklin Pierce. Benjamin is also his father's name and it seems like the middle name was given so as to name him after someone famous (two famous people actually).

And similalry, in Bucky's case, I could see Buchanan being a family name and his parents naming him James so as to name him after the President (despite him being one of the worst Presidents).

edited 24th Mar '16 1:51:53 PM by Hodor2

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53816: Mar 24th 2016 at 2:00:39 PM

Garry Shandling, who played Senator Stern in Iron Man 2 and The Winter Soldier, is dead at 66.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#53819: Mar 24th 2016 at 6:00:41 PM

sad

I know he did other work, but within the MCU he was definitely my favorite senator.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#53821: Mar 24th 2016 at 6:16:22 PM

[up]

OK, that's actually pretty funny.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#53822: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:11:16 PM

We need video of it when it happens.

Apparently he reiterated that's what he wanted just two months ago. Did he know something was going to happen, because he laid the irony very thick in his last appearance...

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#53823: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:25:42 PM

Finished Daredevil just now.

Holy shit, Stick. Way to "stick" it to Nobu. tongue

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53824: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:26:37 PM

Yeah, he's pretty much "OH NOT THIS TIME YOU DON'T YOU JIVE MOTHERFUCKER"

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53825: Mar 24th 2016 at 7:32:33 PM

edited 24th Mar '16 7:32:51 PM by comicwriter


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