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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Like, dear lord. At least the previous season the terrible Asian stereotypes were a footnote.
edited 21st Mar '16 5:12:13 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.That was a specific choice from the director, but one I personally liked. As long as you're already not using him, getting in some licks at why the character doesn't work is great in my book.
Again, that's really debatable. They made some radical changes and Iron Man 3 ended up as the biggest grossing superhero movie of the year with fairly good reviews as well. Clearly it didn't end up hurting them any.
edited 21st Mar '16 5:19:00 PM by comicwriter
Isn't Elektra a good, complex Asian character that Daredevil season 2 provides us with?
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I'm pretty certain she's supposed to be Asian in the show too. The whole Reveal is that she was stolen from The Hand and given to a Greek couple as an adopted daughter.
Which is actually a recommended way of dealing with it.
That's a fine way of looking at it and all, but I still feel it was a very lackluster conclusion to that plotline; the idea of distracting himself from it is fine, but it happens way too early in the movie and doesn't feel like it's a big enough deal (yes, I know it's a while before it happens, I just think having him "deal with it" before the third act starts was a mistake). I haven't seen future movies where Tony is involved to see if the PTSD is still present, but I just don't think it was very satisfying relative to the context of Iron Man 3. It doesn't help that once Tony distracts himself from it, the movie immediately stops being interesting.
I guess it's kinda obvious that I didn't like Iron Man 3 that much, isn't it?
But I guess this all goes to show that IM 3 is probably the most controversial film in the MCU still, even after all this time. I'm not sure that this will be any different for a while.
edited 21st Mar '16 5:37:29 PM by wehrmacht
Even if Elektra is supposed to be Asian—the show never says explicitly—it's still kinda terrible that the only Asian good guy is, y'know, not actually Asian.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Oh, hey, no, she is indeed half-Asian. Her dad's Cambodian. My bad!
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.On the subject of Daredevil season 2, I watched episodes 3-5 today. Elektra's really awesome, and I'm rather surprised to see Punisher locked away so early, but I assume we'll be seeing him plenty still.
Also, goddamn, that stairwell fight at the end of 3.
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are Mooks, that's problematic?
edited 21st Mar '16 10:22:30 PM by FoxBoxKid
Make mine Marvel.That was a specific choice from the director, but one I personally liked.
Yeah, I kinda got that. And I don't like it, and I already told you several times I thought there were ways to adapt the character without making him a racist caricature. Now please stop saying over and over again that you don't think the Mandarin character works so we can finally move on from this argument.
Again, that's really debatable. They made some radical changes and Iron Man 3 ended up as the biggest grossing superhero movie of the year with fairly good reviews as well. Clearly it didn't end up hurting them any.
I know, I was speaking from my point of view. Also just because a moving is high grossing doesn't mean it's good. Avatar was the biggest grossing movie since Titanic yet almost everyone agrees its story was crap. Plus Iron Man 3 had plenty of factors- second sequel of an already highly successful movie, RDJ's acting - to make sure it would make a lot of money anyway. It's a bit of an easy answer to say "it made tons of money so it has to be good".
Her actress is French-Cambodian though.
Ah, so that's why they gave her a french-speaking scene.
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Well, that's kinda the thing I am wondering. Is using japanese ninja as villains a racist caricature or not? I mean, technically it has been done in plenty of media (heck, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have this as their main villain faction) and very few people ever complained.
edited 22nd Mar '16 1:16:38 AM by Theokal3
To be fair in TMNT's case you have Japanese trained ninjas versus Japanese trained ninjas. It's like sending an army of stereotypical black street criminals against your WASP-y hero.
In my opinion though the problem with ninjas in Western media is less about racism (IMO they've sufficiently divorced from general media portrayals of the Japanese that I don't think they're even close to as problematic as stereotypes about salarymen, geishas, or schoolgirls and the like) and more that they've (d)evolved into a tired and cheesy cliche.
edited 22nd Mar '16 2:21:25 AM by AlleyOop
I mean, I like ninjas, but if you're going to give them little actual character depth, then I'm not sure if there's much to them beyond "generic Japanese villains".
Which might not be a huge problem, if they weren't being set up as the main villains.
edited 22nd Mar '16 2:27:26 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!

Was the sword called Damocles?