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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#53451: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:12:01 PM

[up] I remember reading somewhere that Civil War will have a Daredevil reference, though I'm not sure.

The Luke Cage logo looks really cool.

edited 18th Mar '16 1:13:49 PM by DeathsApprentice

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#53452: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:22:43 PM

Doctor Strange: You can not revive people, no matter how strong is the magic.

His failing was not considering space science.

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#53453: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:41:45 PM

The Netflix series might have a better chance of being incorporated into the films on account of the fact that, unlike S.H.I.E.L.D, Marvel Studios actually wanted them to exist.

Joss has talked about how he got pulled off the Agents project by Marvel execs to go work on Age of Ultron, who were like, "Uh, Joss, you were supposed to be making movies, not a TV show."

EDIT: On an unrelated note, it will be interested once the Doctor Strange film comes out to have a new mental voice for the character. Right now, I'm using Doctor Orpheus.

edited 18th Mar '16 1:43:37 PM by TobiasDrake

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#53454: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:44:10 PM

What about Agent Carter?

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#53455: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:45:07 PM

Agent Carter doesn't even coexist with the Marvel One-Shot that served as its pilot. I highly doubt the films will ever reference it.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#53456: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:47:28 PM

Isn't her funeral in CW? Hard to do things in the movies when the characters are dead.

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#53457: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:49:29 PM

How does it not coexist with the one-shot? I thought the one-shot took place later on?

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53458: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:50:00 PM

Technically the movies already acknowledged the TV shows...in Ant-man, when it was said that there are people with all kinds of powers. It clarified that there is a lot of happening off-screen of the movies, even though it wasn't very specific. And so far, they didn't contradict anything.

Plus, it is not like, for example, a captain America movie would mention anything which happened in an Iron man or Thor movie.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53459: Mar 18th 2016 at 1:59:00 PM

I remember reading somewhere that Civil War will have a Daredevil reference, though I'm not sure.

Someone put that on the works page for Civil War but I deleted it. There was no source and google turned up nothing. The movie pages are a hot bed for people writing lies for some reason (Winter Soldier was really bad about this).

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I don't think they'll explicitly contradict any stuff with HYDRA from the show, just not acknowledge it. I don't think any of the stuff about the secret Inhuman or HYDRA existing for thousand of years would be relevant to Civil War anyway.

edited 18th Mar '16 2:00:06 PM by comicwriter

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#53460: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:02:17 PM

I think (and hope) that the Agent Carter one shot is essentially a pilot movie.

In the one shot, Peggy is with a completely different group of sexist colleagues and is going nowhere until Howard contacts her about starting SHIELD. In the actual tv show, Peggy is respected by her colleagues at the end of the first season/throughout the second and so it would be a total 180 backwards if the one shot was still canon.

Also, it's more speculation, but there was some interesting discussion/speculation in the Agent Carter thread how the reference to Zodiac in the one shot could tie into a plotline set up at the end of the second season for the (possibly nonexistent) third season.

edited 18th Mar '16 2:03:29 PM by Hodor2

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53461: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:03:59 PM

Isn't Agent Carter under the jurisdiction of the movie division despite being a TV show?

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#53462: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:05:17 PM

Come to think of it, probably. It definitely seems to have more connection to/acknowledgement in the films than AOS.

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#53463: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:05:36 PM

Previous interviews suggested that the Agent Carter one-shot took place at the end of the series, but the second season takes place a year after the one-shot would've happened, so it's likely not the case anymore.

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#53464: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:06:50 PM

On an unrelated note, it will be interesting once the Doctor Strange film comes out to have a new mental voice for the character. Right now, I'm using Doctor Orpheus.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53465: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:10:25 PM

The TV show replaced the shot, since the shot was set in 1946, and the show is already in year 1947

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#53466: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:12:25 PM

So the shot is probably non-canon now?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53467: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:23:56 PM

Technically the movies already acknowledged the TV shows...in Ant-man, when it was said that there are people with all kinds of powers. It clarified that there is a lot of happening off-screen of the movies, even though it wasn't very specific. And so far, they didn't contradict anything.

That was a throwaway reference that wouldn't change at all if you watched Ant-Man without ever watching the shows.

What the AOS fans keep throwing out is stuff like Absorbing Man and Blizzard showing up as part of Zemo's squad or Quake appearing as part of Team Cap, and that's just never gonna happen.

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#53468: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:26:14 PM

Hey, I was cool with Cap not appearing in Iron Man 3 or Hulk not appearing in Thor: The Dark World, I don't care if they don't put anyone from Agents of SHIELD in the Marvel movies. I just hope they don't contradict them is all.

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#53469: Mar 18th 2016 at 2:30:43 PM

This is what Gregg said about it:

"That writer and director will have free reign to do what they want to do with the Inhumans. But hopefully there’ll be some way that our Inhumans connect to that. It’d be too bad if that was wasted."

"What’s kind of necessary for the show to work is that it is its own thing and it’s not dependent upon those crossovers. They’re just fun stuff that happens once in a while. They destroy the organization our show is named after and we have to deal with that! I’ll be interested to see how it evolves, that crossover stuff."

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53470: Mar 18th 2016 at 3:51:24 PM

While I don't think that they will ever throw characters up to the movies (with the exception of someone like the Kingpin or even the defenders...but that is a big maybe), I don't think that one should dismiss the TV shows, either. They make the world so much richer.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53471: Mar 18th 2016 at 6:06:01 PM

Chris Evans' reaction to watching Civil War for the first time.

edited 19th Mar '16 7:40:46 AM by comicwriter

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#53472: Mar 18th 2016 at 6:11:48 PM

Kinda annoying that the title spoils the video. tongue

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#53473: Mar 19th 2016 at 9:11:07 AM

the one shot is probably broad strokes

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#53474: Mar 19th 2016 at 9:50:49 AM

Theory: The stolen Pym Particles from the end of Ant-Man will be used to make Atlas for the Masters of Evil.

edited 19th Mar '16 10:06:53 AM by comicwriter

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#53475: Mar 19th 2016 at 10:10:34 AM

Supporting Characters Of Daredevil from Marvel's tumblr. Quite a few that aren't in the show yet.


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