Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules
still apply.
- This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
- While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread
. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
- Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.
If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.
Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
So you're saying that regardless of the actual genre caveats or who they are as characters (since as you say those things are apparently irrelevant in Skye's case), if one has superpowers or is on a team of people that have superpower they're automatically a superhero?
I ask because you've actually already made a very good case for saying that Skye isn't a superhero, but a spy with superpowers, because of the genre she's in and what she does with those powers. If those things are out, it opens up a fairly large can of worms as to who is a superhero and who isn't.
edited 16th Mar '16 3:51:48 PM by KnownUnknown
One thing for sure, if CW can claim that they had the first Superheroine as a lead despite Agent Carter being the first show out of the gate with the "she doesn't have powers" argument, than Ao S can claim to have the only Asian-American Superheroine. Fair is fair.
Who on CW was the first female superhero lead?
But on that level, I don't think that's the same thing. Peggy isn't a superhero, I wouldn't say, even if it's a show set in the Marvel Universe. I wouldn't classify Coulson as a superhero either.
Like I said previously, I seriously doubt it was Bennett trying to make an ultra specific argument about what constitutes being a superhero, she probably just isn't aware of Katana, which is fine. Her statement was incorrect but I doubt there was any malice behind it.
edited 16th Mar '16 4:19:27 PM by comicwriter
Uh, Supergirl's on CBS.
(which let's be honest is why no one online remembers it)
edited 16th Mar '16 4:21:11 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Like I just said, nobody on the CW has claimed they had the first female superhero lead. Though back when they were the WB, they had the ultra short-lived Birds of Prey TV show.
edited 16th Mar '16 4:22:56 PM by comicwriter
Supergirl is made by the same production studio as the DC shows on the CW, and takes place in a linked continuity, so I can understand the confusion.
They are even going to have a Flash/Supergirl crossover in a couple weeks. Probably via multiverse shenanigans since the Flash has been dealing with them all season and it would be a way to avoid having to fully reconcile the two continuities.
![]()
Again, it's a matter of definition. She is a lead in a comic book show and she routinely kicks-a..., taking out villains left and right. A lot of people would that consider a superhero. Others would insist on the more narrow notion of someone with powers/special abilities/nifty gear which gives them an advantage over others. But it is a very fluid line. Black Widow is usually considered a Superheroine because she is an avenger, but her abilities don't differ from May's and Mockingbird's that much.
My point was that depending on the view point, CB is right about Quake being the one Superheroine with Asian roots. So no reason to complain.
I don't think anyone's been complaining, just pointing out her statement was incorrect. Like I said before, it kinda cuts both ways. I doubt she's aware of Katana but then probably the reason Quake is passed over in lot of these discussions is because a lot of people gave up on AOS.
There's some people who I don't think ever forgave the show for Season 1.
edited 16th Mar '16 5:02:58 PM by comicwriter
I've talked to a couple people in Real Life who think Season 3 is absolutely terrible.
It never showed up on TV here again after the first break in S1. Too few viewers and the MCU still isn't a big deal over here. Star Wars wasn't even the number 1 movie last year for us(Deadpool we liked and Bv S looks to be huge for us next week btw).
edited 16th Mar '16 5:26:26 PM by LordofLore
My friend who does follow AOS regularly claims it's mostly enjoyable in the trainwreck So Bad, It's Good kind of way.

She most likely used the more narrow definition of a "character with powers who fights for the good". She is also a main character, and not someone who turns up once in a while in some show.