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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53201: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:58:49 AM

There's literally nothing to indicate she's White Tiger. Like at all. People are just assuming that because White Tiger was in the Spider-Man cartoon.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53202: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:00:22 AM

Perhaps they didn't want to suggest that a specific African Country is an open harbour for smugglers.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#53203: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:00:43 AM

I know. People are wildly guessing.

edited 14th Mar '16 8:09:57 AM by LordofLore

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#53204: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:01:27 AM

And White Tiger was already mentioned in Jessica Jones. She said something about a private investigator with White Tiger's real life name. (Not to mention the rights nightmare if this character debuts in a Sony movie...Sony will mostly stick to the characters they actually own, aside from borrowing some of the MCU characters once a while).

edited 14th Mar '16 8:02:15 AM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53205: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:08:39 AM

One thing I think comic fans don't grasp is that not every casting choice is gonna be for a prominent character from the comics. All the "She's White Tiger!" or "She's secretly some major Spider-Man character from the comics!" talk seems to be based on people thinking there's no way she'd be playing an original character or someone obscure like Michelle from the comics.

There were people arguing for months that Robert Redford would be the Red Skull because there's no way Marvel would waste a legendary actor on an obscure bit character like Alexander Pierce. There were people who seriously thought the Tag Along Kid from Iron Man 3 was gonna be revealed to be Nova at the end of the movie. There were even some who thought one of the Extremis soldiers would be the Wasp.

Sometimes actors end up playing canon foreigners or people who aren't that notable in the comics. It happens all the time.

edited 14th Mar '16 8:09:36 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53206: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:14:36 AM

Did people speculate anything weird for Michael Pena, TI, or David Dastmalchian back when Ant-Man was coming out?

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#53207: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:16:25 AM

Perhaps they didn't want to suggest that a specific African Country is an open harbour for smugglers.
Yeah, far better to stereotype the entire continent instead.

And I mean it's not like they had the option of making up a country or something.

edited 14th Mar '16 8:16:55 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#53208: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:22:15 AM

I've literally never heard of this Zendaya.

Half of me wants her to be Mary Jane just so the internet's collective head can explode (half from the outrage, half from the outrage at the outrage).

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53209: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:22:47 AM

General belief was that Micheal was going to be a villain in the Hank Pym flashbacks and be some bad guy of a banana republic. I forget what character names were suggested.

[up] Being vaguely familiar with her that's not a bad cast. They'd have to dye her hair though.

edited 14th Mar '16 8:24:31 AM by Whowho

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53210: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:36:46 AM

Some people also thought that TI was gonna be Bill Foster.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53211: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:39:45 AM

[up][up][up][up] Chill, they were just coming up with a possible alternative rationalization. Even if it's more than likely wrong, being snide isn't the best way to correct someone whose post was made in good faith.

edited 14th Mar '16 8:46:50 AM by AlleyOop

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#53212: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:22:48 AM

And White Tiger was already mentioned in Jessica Jones.
Actually, Angela del Toro was mentioned in Jessica Jones. Ava Ayala is a different character who became the White Tiger after Angela del Toro.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#53213: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:45:12 AM

[up][up][up] Black Goliath is an interesting character to me. Mostly because he is a character which has never been treated well, and has an abs window. (A rare costume feature indeed)

Like, his own comic series only ran for five issues, and then he gets murdered in civil war. And it's clear a lot of people at MARVEL regrets this, because he gets three different post death appearances. Normon Osborne tries to resurrect? him to spite Hank Pym and try to hunt Pym down. Hank Pym uploads his mind into a computer, and Heracles spots him in the underworld gambelling for a resurrection (given the previous two examples it seems plausible he had a couple of false wins)

Actually, that would be cool, if in Thor Ragnorok we briefly see in Hel a bunch of dead MCU people gambling for a resurrection.

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#53214: Mar 14th 2016 at 9:49:47 AM

And I mean it's not like they had the option of making up a country or something.

Tragically, they already have a perfectly good one for this exact purpose: the fictional island of Madripoor off the coast of South Asia, an entire nation of Bad Guy Bar.

Unfortunately, I think Fox has the rights to it, as it's almost always associated with X-Men characters, most notably Wolverine.

edited 14th Mar '16 9:50:07 AM by TobiasDrake

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#53217: Mar 14th 2016 at 12:53:40 PM

Neat. Sharon's costume looks pretty cool. I like how Ant-Man's got a Spidey-like pose and Bucky's got a vaguely cat-like prowl to match Black Panther's.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#53218: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:23:02 PM

My only problem with Sharon's outfit is why does she have batons? Usually, she just has a gun and she, you know, shoots people. I don't think I've ever seen Sharon with batons. Because now it just looks like "unpowered female fighter = batons," since three of them have batons now.

edited 14th Mar '16 1:23:13 PM by alliterator

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#53219: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:25:15 PM

Kinda makes sense, actually. They're all SHIELD agents, right? It would make sense for SHIELD to have a standard-issue weapon or training.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#53220: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:25:33 PM

Yeah, why can't Nat use guns? She's already a good cqc fighter with all her wrestling moves so the only reason I can see for the batons now that they aren't fighting robots is that having heroes killing people with guns makes them look bad and can't really be sold to kids as a toy.

Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#53221: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:27:20 PM

Attention pro-registration people. If you're two biggest cheerleaders are Tony Stark and freaking Thunderbolt Ross, you are not off to a good start. Also citing those specific incidents doesn't help your case either. In fact, it helps Cap's.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#53222: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:36:06 PM

Tony's side has cooler costumes. They automatically win.

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#53223: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:38:54 PM

Given that he's the most marketable person in the entire MCU short of maybe Loki, I'd say Tony Stark is a fantastic Pro-Reg cheerleader.

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Punisher286 Since: Jan, 2016
#53224: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:38:56 PM

No, they all lose. They all look like trigger-happy unreasonable idiots who cannot solve a dispute without trying to kill each other.

Thor must be watchin all of this from Asgard and face-palming so hard right now. And don't confuse marketability with in-universe credibility. And after he recklessly messed with forces that he had no comprehension of (without telling the others) and created a genocidal robot that nearly wiped out the world, Tony has very little of it left. And he certainly isn't fit to pass judgments on what the others need to do/accept.

edited 14th Mar '16 1:41:53 PM by Punisher286

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#53225: Mar 14th 2016 at 1:40:57 PM

I think I'll wait to see the movie to decide.

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