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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Oh, Sokovia was certainly Tony's fault. He created that mess.
... Good point. Sorry, still not used to the whole Tony Stark creating Ultron thing.
DC actually shows that Cap is right, because it was a kind of government organisations which went off the rails there.
Do I really need to point out DC and Marvel don't exactly work the same way? Also, I am speaking from a real-life point of view. In real life context, both would be right.
edited 11th Mar '16 4:18:18 AM by Theokal3
I suppose the question is does Tony blame HIMSELF for Sokovia.
The whole Ultron Incident was basically one giant Trauma Conga Line for him: Making his own villain that was basically evil him, coming face to face with people who hate him for VERY justifiable reasons because of a past he isn't proud of, losing some very good friends, that sort of thing.
It might've been just as much of a wake-up call as Afghanistan. Except with Eastern european accents.
The weirdest criticism of the new Spider Man I'm seeing is the voice. I'm genuinely beginning to wonder if people are so used to teenagers being played by adults in films that we can't tell what an actual teenage voice sounds like anymore.
Because seriously, Spidey sounds like a teen.
Visit my Tumblr! I may say things. The Bureau ProjectThe, what, two to four seconds we see of him? Yeah he's great. Totally Spidey. People complain. It happens. There's not much to judge.
Actually, on a personal note, I already like it more than the Amazing look. He actually looks like a comic book character here. I didn't like the Amazing look because it was too muted, too plausible. It wasn't amazing or spectacular to me.
Theo, they were talking about WASHINGTON, DC, where the Triskellion and 3 Helicarriers fell.
Ah, my bad.
Well, true, that would give Cap reason. However, Sokovia also suggests Tony was right, since as said above Ultron was his own doing and had spectacularly horrible consequences. So, yeah, kinda breaks that. In a sense it's fitting that each of the two characters has a movie proving his point.
So, who's in that chair behind the glass when Tony backhands Steve with Bucky behind him?
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Don't tell me Tony/the government is stupid enough to make a clone of Quicksilver/Thor/whoever like in the comics.
That has got to be someone else being brainwashed or something.
edited 11th Mar '16 8:07:36 AM by LordofLore
I still don't get why people found this THAT horrible. I mean, it's not like if Stark and Richards reanimated Thor's corpse, they just used DNA. They didn't intended the clone to turn out that wrong either. It's morally ambiguous, yeah, but I fail to see how that's enough to qualify Tony as Iron Furher.
edited 11th Mar '16 8:15:29 AM by Theokal3

So...how did they get the footage from Sokovia? It's not like news teams were there.