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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
They're definitely not going to use her, but I don't think the reason is because they're afraid of stepping on DC's toes. When it comes to film, Marvel's the reigning champion. They already declared a game of chicken by releasing Civil War on the same day Dawn of Justice, two very similar premises, was to come out. DC blinked and moved back their own release date. Marvel knows that any movie they make is going to be a resounding success; they have nothing to fear from comparison.
The reason they're probably never going to use Felicia as the love interest in a film is that, much as I love the character, Marvel's just not interested in pushing her in that role. They haven't been for a very long time. Adaptations like the Ultimate Spider-Man comics or the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon tend to pay lip service to it before irrefutably sinking the ship. The Web of Shadows video game actually locks you into the Evil ending if you don't uncharacteristically abandon her to die. Even the idea of introducing her in ASM looked like she was going to be a villain - which she actually was in the ASM 2 video game adaptation.
Marvel's not withholding her for fear that they can't compete with Dark Knight Rises or Batman Returns. They're withholding her because they've been trying to kill the notion of Felicia as a serious love interest for years.
edited 7th Mar '16 11:34:07 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I want her in the MCU because it would probably mean the comic version would stop trying to pretend to be a mob boss only Black Cat turned evil for awful reasons and is still a mob boss despite the fans and critics being tired of it.
Selina fits way better
◊ in the role and
◊ she doesn't actually turn evil.
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edited 7th Mar '16 11:54:30 AM by LordofLore
It depends on the plot. Either can work but which is better depends on how well it can be tied to the central narrative. Remember the lessons of Winter Soldier.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.It would be a cool thing for Spider-Man to already have some part of his rogues gallery already in existence - it would save them the issue of having to introduce everyone going forward, and would add a lot to a part of the universe that is going to have difficulty getting its niche going forward. They don't have to have them all appear onscreen or anything, but, say, have old issues of the Bugle be shown with headlines like "SPIDER-MAN: THREAT OR MENACE?", "SPIDER-MAN AND DOC OCK: EIGHT-ARMED ALLIES?" or "SPIDER-MAN HELPS ELECTRIC CRIMINAL ROB BANK!" Or if we have a bit where people talk about Spidey, have someone mention he once saved them from a dinosaur man (for added fun, have the person clearly be Connors himself) and not be believed. Stuff like that.
I'd love a vibe like Earth's Mightiest Heroes did for Spidey in general, where he's been active for some time but nobody's been really paying attention to him. Another cool thing would be to establish that the Green Goblin exists, while having Normal Osborn be a supporting character, and have no one realize yet that the two are the same person.
edited 7th Mar '16 12:52:07 PM by KnownUnknown
i agree.
@Lordof Lore if Felicia were to appear in the MCU wouldn't Marvel just use the current crime boss version? Especially given how committed they are to it?
Marvel is mixed in that regard too. A lot of their stuff is influenced by the classics but we've seen a lot of influence from the more recent material (Maria Hill, Hawkeye's SHIELD costume and having a family, Nick Fury being a black man, the fact that we're doing a Civil War movie at all, and Carol Danvers being Captain Marvel not Ms. Marvel).
edited 7th Mar '16 1:07:11 PM by comicwriter
Well, that is the advantage of having so much lore to draw from. You can pick whatever you like or whatever resonated the best with the readers. And with lesser known characters, you can throw in some changes. IE the only thing left of Peter Quill's backstory is that he is half-alien. More or less everything else has been twisted a little bit, making him a way more sympathetic character in the process. With Scott Lang it is the other way around. Instead of telling the story of a "noble robber" who only wants to rescue his child, we now have the story of someone who is prone to misuse his abilities and follow the "easy way" instead of going the hard way.
http://www.hitfix.com/harpy/dont-expect-any-mention-of-inhumans-in-captain-america-civil-war
Mc Feely was just as lost. “Is there really fish oil? What are you talking about?”
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/justice-league-adds-jk-simmons-873227
Aww. Looks like JK as JJJ isn't happening. I'm sure he'll do well as Gordon, but it's hard to see him as such at this moment. I'm just too used to him playing hammy types.
They're also looking for a racially diverse supporting cast for the Spider-Man movie
. Only makes sense considering it's set in Queens.
edited 7th Mar '16 1:58:46 PM by AlleyOop
He's got the range for it. He was the wise air sage Tenzin in Legend Of Korra.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.

This made me smile.
Asked if he really had no idea that he had been chosen to become an Avenger, Mackie added: "I had no idea. I flew in, Chris and Scarlett are up top and the rest of us are standing there. It was like “Cut. Anthony fly in. Action. Hm-hm-hm. Cut. Alright, thanks!” That was pretty much it. Six months later you go to a premiere and you s**t yourself. Everybody was like “Why are you so excited?” I'm like, “Arrhhhahhh... I just found out I'm an Avenger!”