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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#52526: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:00:12 PM

The wiki says he was born in 2008.

  • if she will start at age 13, it would be in 2021.
  • if she will start at age 15, it would be in 2023.
  • if she will start at age 18, it would be in 2026.

Also, I have several ideas for Kid Loki. (if his origins are different from the comics.)

  • A Clone.
  • Son of Loki.
  • A familiar, but not necessarily his son.
  • A fanboy of Loki.

edited 5th Mar '16 1:00:33 PM by dantecito

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52527: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:11:42 PM

We are pretty much booked for the next decade anyway. If we assume that our current main heroes retire (which is not a given, Chris Evans sounds pretty enthusiastic and if he isn't too expensive, Marvel might decide to do more Captain America movies), and if we assume that Phase 4 has at least as many movies as Phase 3 (which currently already has eleven movies in four years), the slate is pretty full already. Let's assume that they go for three movies each year and that each character who isn't Hulk gets a trilogy. And let's not forget that Spiderman movie have to happen even three years (meaning that there will be two of those alone in Phase 4, one in the first and one in the fourth year of it).

Working of those assumption there will be Spiderman 2 and 3, Got G Vol 3, Black Panther 2, Doctor Strange 2, Antman and the Wasp return (or Antman 3), Inhumans 2, Captain Marvel 2 - that's already eight movies, not counting the big Avengers movie as wrap-up, the eventuality of a Got G Vol 4, or a Black Widow movie. And ignoring the possibility that the F4 rights revert back, or that they might pick up other properties like Cloak and Dagger.

Meaning we are already pretty much booked to the end of 2023. Since Cassie was older than five in 2015, she will be at the very least a teenager when Phase 5 starts. When it ends she will be around 20

edited 5th Mar '16 1:12:41 PM by Swanpride

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#52528: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:33:56 PM

Did Evans turn around on giving up the role because of Perlmutter being fired?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52529: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:38:56 PM

Bleeding Cool: Shang-Chi is not showing up in Iron Fist.

If he actually shows up(it's Bleeding Cool) I could see Will Yun Lee play him well.

edited 5th Mar '16 3:57:05 PM by LordofLore

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#52530: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:40:57 PM

There aren't any sources this guy even listed.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52531: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:43:02 PM

[up][up] [up]Maybe, but I think the explanation is more simple: Chris Evans never had the "big success" so to speak and his one try as Superhero before the MCU was...unfortunate. And now he played the lead in what is widely considered the best Superhero movie in the MCU, and apparently Civil War is just as good. Must be fun if you are adored for the work you do for a change.

edited 5th Mar '16 1:43:42 PM by Swanpride

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#52532: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:49:20 PM

I'd say he enjoys it if he says he wants to stay as Cap. Remember that he initially turned down the role of Steve five times because he was worried about the effect fame would have on his life.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#52533: Mar 5th 2016 at 1:52:06 PM

It's Bleeding Cool, right? Wait for someone else to confirm their tale.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#52534: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:02:57 PM

There are so many properties in the MCU right now. Like, if everything gets a trilogy, and an instalment each phase, and only three films a year, then if Phase 4 is only three years long like Phase 2 there wont be space for new properties.

Though I know Marvel has mentioned they'd consider putting out more films a year if they found that super hero films did well out of the summer.

Phase five sounds right for Young Avengers though.

yellowturtle from Nowhere Important Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#52535: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:07:30 PM

[up] x6 It's Bleeding Cool tongue That guy is notorious for posting ridiculous rumors without any backing, so hopefully not true.

Crow: There's a plot?
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52536: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:16:46 PM

[up][up][up][up] He more or less outright said that he enjoys being in good movies for a change. This in mind, there is a really good chance that the Captain America franchise will continue past three movies. Especially if you consider that Falcon and Bucky are also two very popular characters.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#52537: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:20:21 PM

If I remember Chris Evans said he wanted to focus on his directing career, but since his directorial debut didn't do so hot he probably had a change of plans.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52538: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:46:56 PM

[up] No, he said he wanted to do directing, too. You can do both.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#52539: Mar 5th 2016 at 2:53:09 PM

I know you can, look at Ben Affleck, but from what I remember he said he wanted to wind down on the acting at the same time in order to further his directing.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52540: Mar 5th 2016 at 3:53:16 PM

To give you an idea about their TV credibility, Bleedingcool claimed not too long ago that Iron Fist had been cancelled and that Marvel was going to pursue a Punisher spin-off instead.

edited 5th Mar '16 3:54:05 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52541: Mar 6th 2016 at 11:36:36 AM

Question: They discussed today at Collider with Black Panther and Captain Marvel need an origin story or not. Which made me wonder...does Black Panther actually have an origin story? I mean, yes, there is the whole story how his father was killed and he became king, but that is technically not his origin. His origin is being born. And Marvel can easily introduce him as prince of Wakanda and turn him into the king whenever they want.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#52542: Mar 6th 2016 at 11:42:04 AM

Captain Marvel could use one. Otherwise it's just like, "Here's Carol. Beeteedubs, she's got superpowers. Kay? Kay."

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52543: Mar 6th 2016 at 12:40:14 PM

Black Panther really doesn't need an origin story outside of his dad being killed and maybe flashbacks showing any relevant information.

I assumed part of the reason they were already introducing him in-costume before his own movie was so they didn't have to deal with that.

Captain Marvel on the other hand probably needs one unless they have her origin happen in another movie.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#52544: Mar 6th 2016 at 12:50:59 PM

Panther doesn't really need that much of a backstory. That time can be spent to develop Wakanda itself.

Carol definitely could use it though.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#52546: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:04:25 PM

In Black Panther's case, his backstory and the backstory of Wakanda are basically the same thing. One of the key things his movie is going to have to do is remember that where the storytelling and worldbuilding is involved.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52547: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:24:39 PM

[up][up]They're apparently bringing Hope Van Dyne into the mainstream comic continuity so that'll probably hold true for a lot of the other media now too.

RBluefish Since: Nov, 2013
#52548: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:31:04 PM

It would be pretty neat to see Amadeus Cho in the MCU, but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon - partly because of the film franchise's rather questionable treatment of Asian characters, but more practically, because Helen Cho in Age of Ultron looked way too young to have a son that age.

Also, Swanpride - he actually does have powers now, he recently became the Hulk!

"We'll take the next chance, and the next, until we win, or the chances are spent."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52549: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:37:54 PM

They could always just change it so Helen Cho is his older sister or aunt in this version. Also, in general Hollywood has a history of casting very young looking women as older characters (to the extent that older actresses often complain about this), so her youthful face really doesn't preclude her from having a son.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#52550: Mar 6th 2016 at 1:42:23 PM

[up] Not just any Hulk! The Totally Awesome Hulk!

He has a quiff.


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