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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52501: Mar 4th 2016 at 4:23:30 PM

If the Shang-Chi rumor is true I wonder if they'll have to change his father. I have no idea what the TV rights to Fu Manchu are like.

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#52502: Mar 4th 2016 at 4:24:19 PM

What's the problem with the Fu Manchu rights, exactly?

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52503: Mar 4th 2016 at 4:26:01 PM

He was a preexisting literary character (he even has his own page here) that depending on who you believe, Marvel either licensed and then lost the rights to, or was mistakenly assumed to be Public Domain.

Either way, they can't ever actually call him by his name in the comics, so they've had to use replacements like "Han" or "Zheng Zu". Or just not mention his name at all.

edited 4th Mar '16 4:27:48 PM by comicwriter

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#52504: Mar 4th 2016 at 4:35:20 PM

Either way, I doubt anyone in their right mind would use the character in this day and age. Fu Manchu is pretty much synonymous with "racist yellow peril stereotype".

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FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
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#52505: Mar 4th 2016 at 4:55:04 PM

I saw someone suggest (can't remember where) that Shang-Chi in the MCU be the son of the real Mandarin, instead of Fu Manchu.

edited 4th Mar '16 4:55:25 PM by FoxBoxKid

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52506: Mar 4th 2016 at 5:16:42 PM

That'd be pretty cool actually.

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#52507: Mar 4th 2016 at 5:17:08 PM

Indeed.

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#52508: Mar 4th 2016 at 6:43:11 PM

In other "wait, what?" news:

Sylvester Stallone was seen hanging around the set of Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52509: Mar 4th 2016 at 6:55:10 PM

Now we know who is playing Vance Astro...

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#52510: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:53:34 PM

Been reading through the posts from that Thor meta blog Tuckerscreator posted and there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Didn't know that about the original ending of Thor 2. Damn, it would've been so much better.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#52511: Mar 4th 2016 at 8:59:05 PM

I'm curious to hear Swanpride's list of obscure but interesting characters.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52512: Mar 4th 2016 at 10:56:28 PM

[up] Sure...here is a small list of characters I would like to see at one point. Keep in mind that I consider those characters interesting because of their respective power sets and sometimes their backstory, and not because I think that the stories written about them are particularly good.

Amadeus Cho - Who I find interesting because he actually has no powers at all but his mind.

Cloud 9 - A mutant who is able to control a cloud

Manifold - An Australian Aboriginal who is able to...break through reality? Either way he can bring whole teams from one place to another in seconds. That sounds really handy.

Rage - the ability is actually very meh (the usual: Very strong and a good fighter), but the backstory sounds very interesting because the guy is actually a 12 year old in an adult body.

Silverclaw - Can shift-change into different jungle animals.

Squirrel Girl - I guess I don't have to explain that one.

Striker - can control electricity, but what I actually might make the character worthwhile is the background of being trained to be attention-seeking by a mother who wanted him to become a famous actor.

Trauma - can see the worst fears of his enemy and then pretend to be this worst fear

Veil - Can turn herself into gas (an ability which will eventually kill her)

edited 4th Mar '16 10:56:59 PM by Swanpride

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#52513: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:01:16 PM

Been reading through the posts from that Thor meta blog Tuckerscreator posted and there's a lot of interesting stuff there. Didn't know that about the original ending of Thor 2. Damn, it would've been so much better.

Read it too. It's so bizarre how much chopping, director switching, actor confusing, and reins pulling there had to be to arrive at an "okay" product.

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#52514: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:08:00 PM

Striker is neat.

He realizes he's gay and instantly decides to hold a press conference about it.

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#52515: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:10:34 PM

Well I can't blame Feige for Thor 2 being cut up, he had that Perlmutter guy above him as his superior. I take it that the person who said in that blog that Feige hated Thor made that statement before Perlmutter got fired.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52516: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:21:58 PM

[up][up] The downside is that the MCU already has a character with his power set.

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#52517: Mar 4th 2016 at 11:23:12 PM
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
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#52519: Mar 5th 2016 at 3:28:37 AM

I'd much rather tell stories with the Young Avengers and Danielle Cage!Cap etc than restart the MCU with different acors.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52520: Mar 5th 2016 at 6:54:45 AM

I'd be curious to see how they'd implement a concept like the Avengers Academy in the MCU.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#52521: Mar 5th 2016 at 7:31:53 AM

I would love to see the Young avengers and Runaways teams grow up through out the MCU. But it's not clear to me when would be best to introduce them. With Spider-Man getting a movie, Kamala Khan an obvious choose for a movie, and Squirrel girl such a hot character at the moment, the MCU could be flooded with teen super heroes. (Though I guess squirrel girl would probably be introduced as a young adult, given that's what she is now in her most iconic of runs)

Which, isn't a bad thing, as it shows superpowers becoming dangerous common place; even minors have them now.

I guess Runaways would come first, as once Doctor Strange establishes the mystic side of the setting there's nothing stopping them getting a film (or tv series, which I would prefer as it would stop the time skips forcing the characters to grow up off screen)

Meanwhile for Young Avengers, stature needs a decade to grow up, Skrulls need to be introduced for Hulking's backstory to make sense and Wiccan and Speedball need to be probabilitied into existence after Vision and Wanda hook up.

So by the time the Young Avengers are viable, the Runaways and Spider-Man and Kamala might not be teens anymore.

edited 5th Mar '16 7:33:19 AM by Whowho

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#52523: Mar 5th 2016 at 11:48:11 AM

Yeah, but how old is she at the moment?

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#52525: Mar 5th 2016 at 12:11:13 PM

Yeah, Young Avengers in a decade then.

Or start Young Avengers with out her and have her join in a sequel.


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