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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how Marvel is able to make those blend with the other parts of the comics.
I mean, between the eldritch abominations, paranormal creatures, warring alien races, mutants that can be born with the ability to kill you just by blinking, and enough fucked up science to turn you into a supervillain if you so much as flip a switch the wrong way, it's a wonder people can still live their day to day lives there.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?Marvel functions on a "checks and balances" logic. Sure there's all this deadly shit, but there's all this good shit to counter it, basically.
The bext example is how WWII went in Marvel. The Nazis had dark sorcery, aliens, superhumans, but so did the Allies, thus they cancel each other out.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."More detailed rundown of the Civil War clip
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edited 3rd Mar '16 7:02:09 PM by comicwriter
I remember there was that part in JLA/Avengers where the Justice League does a flyover of the Marvel Universe and - being pretentious dicks in that story - collectively go "this is the worst world ever, their heroes must be morons."
And then Batman beats up the Punisher offscreen.
edited 3rd Mar '16 7:22:16 PM by KnownUnknown
Apparently both Cap and Superman were cranky in that crossover because being so in tune with their respective universes made being in a foreign one rub them the wrong way.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAs a last-minute handwave of Let's You and Him Fight it was kind of iffy, but then the plot relied on Out Of Character Moments.
edited 3rd Mar '16 10:45:47 PM by KnownUnknown
The best part about that crossover, though, was that when Captain America and Batman start fighting, they just start testing each others defenses and then stop, saying that they know neither one is the enemy and that they should instead team up to find out who is doing this. And when Batman and Captain America team up, you know Krona has just lost.
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Its a bit of a meta justification. The Avengers and Justice League fought because the settings created by the two companies were so different that the actual characters were uncomfortable visiting.
Not that it would happen but if something similar to JLA/Avengers happened today, that meta justification wouldn't work the same way.
DC and Marvel have come a lot closer together in tone.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI think Marvel actually got a bit more optimistic as a setting.
At least now that we're off the slow inevitable death march to Secret Wars.
Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Outside of Hickman's books and the actual Secret Wars tie-ins, did that really seep into the rest of them all that much?
And actually, the Secret Wars tie-ins ranged from pretty optimistic (Renew Your Vows) to bleak but great (Siege). And Secret Wars itself ended with a massive happy ending. It was only the run up to Secret Wars that had a bunch of super depressing stuff happen.
edited 3rd Mar '16 11:22:12 PM by alliterator
X-Men seemed like it was depressing too, albeit for different reasons.
Those reasons being that it was X-Men and if tragedy isn't constantly happening to mutants, the world may explode.
Although the fresh new hell was the original X-Men being brought to the future to show them that the 616 present was relatively a Bad Future.
Well I did say the march to Secret Wars.
edited 3rd Mar '16 11:24:11 PM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWhile the Marvel Comics are one big universe, I feel that said universe barely holds together. Which is why I want them to be a little bit more selective for the MCU. They have so many properties, even without the X-men, they should stick to those which do fit with some tweaks. They really need the F4 back, though. My dream is that the MCU will continue, but not in a fluent timeline like in the comics. I want that characters (with the exception of Dr. Strange or Thor, who are more or less immortal/ don't age as fast as others do) die and are replaced by younger heroes. As long as possible.
And once the current MCU comes to an end (way, way down the line), I want them to do a short break and perhaps do something like a Blade and Ghostrider verse (perhaps under the Touchstone label, in order to show that it doesn't belong to anything else). And then they could restart the MCU, but under the premise: Okay, we had one verse, but what if it went a little bit different? What if Gwen Stacy became Spider-man? What if Jessica Jones joined the Avengers? What if... (you'll get my drift). Naturally with new actors all around.
But those are thoughts for way, way down the line. As long as the MCU keeps up the good work, I don't see it ending anytime soon.

They focus on the mystic side, yes, but more specifically, Ghost Rider's niche tends to be on pseudo-Judeo-Christian lore (angels, demons, biblical bad guys, the works) combined with Americana
, so often tossing in things like War veterans, Old West (and subsequently New Old West), cannibal rednecks, New Orleans mystics, KKK-ish religious fundamentalists, that sort of stuff.
Blade's niche lends to traditional Folklore, Vampires, werewolves, and that sort of Things That Go "Bump" in the Night often combined with Punk-ish aesthetic, gothic trappings, and more noir-ish urban fantasy.
While Doctor Strange is into mad aventures in the fourth dimension against maniacal eldritch abominations, Blade and Ghost Rider are on the darker, grittier, more mundane side of marvel fantasy.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."