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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#52276: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:21:47 PM

NO. Ant-Man on Hawkeye's arrow or bust.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#52278: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:26:01 PM

http://mcuexchange.com/brett-chan-to-serve-as-the-stunt-coordinator-for-marvels-iron-fist/

The original confirmation tweet's gone now, but good to know they got someone with experience involved.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#52279: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:32:22 PM

[up][up] Man that whole arc was so good. Earth's Mightiest Heroes really is the unsung hero of modern marvel.

It is also only adaptation to ever portray Von Strucker with a semblance of respect, so kudos.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52280: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:59:16 PM

You mean you didn't like Strucker being a generic throwaway villain could easily have been a brand new character and nothing would have changed?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#52282: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:39:27 PM

I don't think there was really any space for von Strucker as, say, Nick Fury's archenemy. Fury's a supporting character, and quite frankly, the MCU is busy enough as it is.

Oh God! Natural light!
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#52283: Feb 29th 2016 at 4:58:28 PM

I'd be more okay with him not being in the MCU at all than the portrayal we got. Or, Hell, the easiest thing to do would be make him the Big Bad of Agents of SHIELD. That is where the character could shine, outplaying Coulson in the field of espionage. Which makes sense given Coulson seems to also get aspects of 616 Fury in the show. Strucker never really opposed Ultimate Fury like the version the MCU Fury is based on, his beef was always with the WWII vet Fury, and when they basically transplanted MCU Fury to the comics, Strucker had been dead for some time. Matter of fact, Doctor Whitehall is discount Strucker as it is.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#52284: Feb 29th 2016 at 4:59:35 PM

So since the MCU doesn't have the Silver Surfer, Plan B will have to be someone speedy like Quicksilver oh wait-
Hey, Agents of SHIELD is about to get Slingshot. She's a speedster.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52285: Feb 29th 2016 at 5:01:56 PM

And she'll be lucky if she ever shows up outside the TV show outside of the TV show in a brief cameo somewhere.

edited 29th Feb '16 5:02:15 PM by comicwriter

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#52286: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:51:00 PM

Odd question, but who do you guys think has the rights to the U-Foes? They're Marvel's Psycho Rangers to the Fantastic Four, but at he same time they're not Fantastic Four villains and barely ever interact with the Four. If they do have rights to them, I think it would be cool for Marvel to self-parody the Four with the U-Foes should the rights to the FF stay with Fox.

@Strucker: MCU Strucker was almost literally a joke whose only contribution was introducing us to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver and then dying once no longer necessary - which just feels like a waste given his introduction. HYDRA in general became an entire organization of chumps in Ultron, who seemed to only be competent before because nobody important was paying attention to them, which is a shame.

If he'd survived, he would've made a great villain if they ever actually make that Black Widow movie, for instance. I'm still holding out on the hope that his son in AOS might turn out to actually be him, having faked his death and done the de-aging thing to con everyone including his old allies.

edited 29th Feb '16 8:54:07 PM by KnownUnknown

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52287: Feb 29th 2016 at 10:00:07 PM

[up]nah, that would be to complicated, I know they are embracing comic book silliness but please let the overcomplicated explanation out.

And yes, Hydra is more a Tv show villian that anything else, winter soldier is the best we will got, if they made a Black widow movie, I want her facing A.I.M who look enough like Hydra but at the same time are diferent enought to allow more more variation around.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#52288: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:15:45 AM

Soooo what do you guys think Marvel could do once Infinity War is over? I mean, it's gonna be hard to top Thanos owning the Infinity Gauntlet, especially with half of their cosmic storylines being in Century Fox's hands. What would you suggest to adapt next?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52289: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:22:37 AM

Annihilation/Annihilation Conquest/War Of Kings/Realm Of Kings/The Thanos Imperative for the cosmic side of the MCU. Switch Annihilus out for someone like the High Evolutionary, make the Shi'ar vs Inhumans and Kree conflict something else(maybe Inhumans vs Kree?), have Ultron come back in a different form, Doctor Strange can discover the Many Angled Ones(with Shuma-Gorath being the main one behind whoever their avatar is if they don't go for Lord Mar-Vell)and deal with one of their agents on Earth etc.

edited 1st Mar '16 4:29:18 AM by LordofLore

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#52290: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:29:44 AM

I'd push for Maestro as a Big Bad. I'd bring Ultron back once as a surprise twist Big Bad. I'd set things up for Secret Invasion just in case the rights ever reverted. I'd do Masters of Evil. I'd make AIM an overarching thing with MODOK at its head.

[up]many Angled Ones. Yes. Especially if we cant get secret invasion. If anything comes close to "no, the heroes are the aliens" its "weird cancer zombie alien heroes".

edited 1st Mar '16 4:32:01 AM by Zeromaeus

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#52291: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:31:51 AM

Well if they can be bothered to keep villains alive or more than one movie and the Beyonder isn't wrapped up in anyone's rights, I'd say the Secret Wars.

The Blog The Art
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#52292: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:33:21 AM

Secret Wars could totes bring people back.

"I teleported you here a moment before your demise, replacing you with a suitable similacrum. Now fight."

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52293: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:34:07 AM

Secret Invasion is a good option. And there is still the hope that they get the F4 rights back. In this case, they could built towards Galactus.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52294: Mar 1st 2016 at 4:36:52 AM

IIRC Fox and Marvel actually share the Skrull rights. Fox of course has the famous characters like the Super Skrull but the race is free for Marvel to use.

You know what I want whoever is Cap after IW to deal with? The Serpent Society, Serpent Solutions or whatever they'll call themselves in the MCU. Have Diamondback join the good guys so we get a new female hero/anti-hero(Have a funny page).

I won't even talk about the Thunderbolts because that looks like a safe lock for a MCU movie now.

edited 1st Mar '16 4:52:10 AM by LordofLore

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#52295: Mar 1st 2016 at 5:55:04 AM

Soooo what do you guys think Marvel could do once Infinity War is over? I mean, it's gonna be hard to top Thanos owning the Infinity Gauntlet, especially with half of their cosmic storylines being in Century Fox's hands. What would you suggest to adapt next?

Years ago, like right after the first avengers came out, I always thought the MCU should have ended after Thanos. Not because there wasn't anywhere left to go, but because of the risk of lowering quality.

Today, I think it depends on the rights of certain characters still owned by Fox. Kang the Conquerer and Galactus are 2 such characters, and both can easily be used as Greater-Scope Villain material.

edited 1st Mar '16 7:13:26 AM by VeryMelon

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#52296: Mar 1st 2016 at 6:38:09 AM

[up]Yeah, I used to think the same thing.

Anyway, these are all good ideas. I'd be all for Ultron coming back in a new form, since I feel they could have done more with him than they did with Age of Ultron. Plus, even with all his bodies destroyed, it's not that impossible to bring him back. I mean, we can have him use a back-up somewhere, or have some other villain recover one of his body and recover his memory from it. And the idea of a war between him and various factions would definitely be big.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52297: Mar 1st 2016 at 7:36:21 AM

If there wasn't a high likelihood Asgard is already gonna get fucked up by Thanos, I'd say Siege.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52298: Mar 1st 2016 at 8:34:12 AM

While rewatching the "deleted" scene from Bv S I was recommended this from right before Ao U came out:

I had completely forgot about it.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52299: Mar 1st 2016 at 8:52:55 AM

Nice to see even Marvel has a sense of humor about Hawkeye's Memetic Loser status.

Another Civil War image.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52300: Mar 1st 2016 at 9:38:37 AM

I can't help but compare these concept pictures to video game concept art and thinking "This is kinda shitty looking". Also, where's Wanda? Widow is on the bottom left running to something(instead of fighting or doing other cool stuff like the men) but Wanda isn't even doing that.

Edit: JK Simmons haven't been approached for returning to Spider-Man but he's up for it if they want him.

edited 1st Mar '16 9:44:48 AM by LordofLore


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