TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Marvel Cinematic Universe

Go To

Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

  • This thread is for talking about the live-action films, TV shows, animated works, and related content that use the Marvel brand, currently owned by Disney.
  • While mild digressions are okay, discussion of the comic books should go in this thread. Extended digressions may be thumped as off-topic.
  • Spoilers for new releases should not be discussed without spoiler tagging for at least two weeks. Rather, each title should have a dedicated thread where that sort of conversation is held. We can mention new releases in a general sense, but please be courteous to people who don't want to be spoiled.

If you're posting tagged spoilers, make sure that the film or series is clearly identified outside the spoiler tagging. People need to know what will be spoiled before they choose to read the post.

    Original post 
Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52226: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:08:16 AM

The Russos from Wizard World:

Finally, Joe confirmed to the crowd that there will be 68 characters in AVENGERS: INFINITY WAR, Part I and II. This may sound like a lot but he was quick to add that some appearances will be much larger than others.

"We have to tell a story and that story has to be built around the characters' emotional arcs," Joe Russo said. "And we can only have so many of those [in Infinity War]."

Joe Russo: I have to reiterate that Thanos has zero Infinity Stones right now.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52227: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:13:28 AM

That is old news, plus, they already said that this number wasn't meant to be taken literally.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52228: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:22:24 AM

Nope. It was from yesterday.

edited 28th Feb '16 8:23:27 AM by comicwriter

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52229: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:26:23 AM

It's old news said again(apart from the Infinity Stones part which again makes Thanos an idiot for trusting Loki with one).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52230: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:28:21 AM

Again, the part about Thanos was not old.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52231: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:32:06 AM

I know which is why I said "apart from".

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52233: Feb 28th 2016 at 8:55:53 AM

Who knows, perhaps this is all part of Thanos big plan. Aren't those stones call to each other? This in mind he should be pretty happy with how many are on earth or close to earth already. Makes it easier to swoop them up in one go.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52234: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:19:00 AM

It only makes Thanos an idiot if he didn't want to cave in Loki's face to retrieve it.

Now he'll just have to cave in robot face instead but he can swing by and punch Loki on his way to getting the Tesseract.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#52235: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:36:42 AM

That the Mind Gem was encapsulated in an AI capable of continuing to do Thanos's work even if Loki fell and potentially overwhelming Loki in the event of betrayal mitigates Thanos's foolishness in giving it away.

But there's still the issue of why he wouldn't come himself. He doesn't seem like an especially busy guy.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#52236: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:40:37 AM

Probably doesn't want to reveal himself right away.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#52237: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:44:08 AM

It is a VERY comfy throne and it took years for him to get the grooves in it just right.

The Blog The Art
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#52238: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:45:21 AM

Why not? Who would Thanos be so threatened by that he wants to mask his involvement? Nobody on Earth even knows he exists.

Had the invasion on Earth gone off without a hitch, there wouldn't be a "right away" because there wouldn't be sequels. It would be

  • Thanos reveals himself.
  • Thanos wins.
  • That's the end of the story. Hooray, Thanos!

Of course, the consequences for failing would be more dire for Thanos, but neither he nor Loki had any impression that Earth would be anything more than an effortless streamroll.

  • THE OTHER: Against the meager might of Earth?
  • LOKI: Glorious, not lengthy.

edited 28th Feb '16 9:46:06 AM by TobiasDrake

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52239: Feb 28th 2016 at 9:47:23 AM

The Ronan stuff makes me believe he has multiple things going on at a time and delegation is important.

We've only seen two of those things but he had to get the gauntlet at some point and groom allies not to mention pine at that mysterious cloaked woman.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#52240: Feb 28th 2016 at 10:38:52 AM

[up][up]Nobody on Earth knows who Thanos is, but as of the first Thor, there's more places interested in Earth's well-being than just Earth itself.

Presumably Thanos wanted Loki as a figurehead/scapegoat in case the invasion plan failed. No reason to have Asgard all up in your business if you can throw someone from there under the bus to make it look like its their problem.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#52242: Feb 28th 2016 at 10:51:37 AM

Guardians makes it clear that everybody who's anybody knows who Thanos is already, and already knows he's bad news. Presumably he's tried something like this already..

The only reason I can think of him not just doing it himself is that maybe he doesn't want it to turn it a confrontation yet. An exiled Asgardian trying to turn galactic warlord, a Kree fanatic out to wipe out his people's enemies, and a human invention going haywire and leading to the species' extinction (presumably his plan was to show up, crush Ultron and take the Gem once Ultron had finished softening up and/or killing humanity) are all unfortunate events, but they're also all isolated incidents that aren't traceable back to him just yet.

jakobitis Doctor of Doctorates from Somewhere, somewhen Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Doctor of Doctorates
#52243: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:05:10 AM

Presumably not wanting to tip his hand before he's got the Gauntlet. Thanos probably has a bad enough reputation that if there was credible news he was up to something, pretty much every power in the galaxy would call ceasefire on each other until he's dealt with. And between them, probably at high cost, could actually stop him.

Thanos with Gauntlet? Let them come. He'll win anyway.

"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#52244: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:19:22 AM

I like the interpretation that Thanos is also something of a Retired Badass, and is just too old to deal with this shit directly, so prefers to relegate tasks to his enforcers until something catches his attention. When something does, however, well, then it's time to put some energy into these ol' bones and show them how mad this titan can be.

Granted I'm fairly sure this started as a joke but now I'm legitimately amused by the interpretation of Thanos as a grizzled veteran.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#52245: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:29:44 AM

In the comics he pretty much is. He only really became a big time Avengers villain after his own archenemies had all died(Mar-Vell) or disappeared(Warlock). The original Infinity Gauntlet story was pretty much his big shot at getting Mistress Death's favor that he ruined by being an idiot with the Gauntlet and due to Warlock coming back with a team. He even spends part of it going "I miss Mar-Vell. He would've at least put up a good fight." and trash talking the first Quasar for thinking he could take Mar-Vell's place as protector of the galaxy.

edited 28th Feb '16 11:53:15 AM by LordofLore

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#52246: Feb 28th 2016 at 11:41:28 AM

I guess if the galaxy notices what Thanos is up to, they would join forces in order to take him down, so he might want to be careful.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#52247: Feb 28th 2016 at 12:03:53 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Though Thor is presumably going to be looking into that in Ragnarok.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#52248: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:18:33 PM

How powerful is Thanos? Does he just poke somebody in the eye and they fall down or can any one of the Avengers go toe-to-toe with him for an extended amount of time?

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#52249: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:26:27 PM

As far as I know Thanos, he's generally portrayed as outclassing more or less everyone in the group with a few exceptions: Hulk can probably give him a run for his money, and Thor at his finest might beat him.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#52250: Feb 28th 2016 at 1:29:18 PM

As far as I can tell, Thanos beats up everyone who isn't some force of nature Cosmic Entity with just his own power. Even heroes like Hulk and Thor and the Silver Surfer will get their ass beat by him, although they usually don't immediately get stomped on, for all the good that does.

Like, anything above him is basically major Eldritch Abomination stuff, so he's basically the final boss of Marvel for human-like bad guys.

edited 28th Feb '16 1:29:52 PM by Ekuran


Total posts: 186,763
Top