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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Honestly, Topher Grace is a good actor, I think it was the presentation in general. Venom is supposed to be a burly, hulking nightmare, but Sam Raimi didn't want to make him a Serkis Folk because he was still in the stage of his career where he wanted to use as many practical effects as possible.
You could have still had a wimpy looking Eddie Brock that can transform into a nightmarish, massive monster. Ultimate Spider-Man did just that. Eddie had an average build in his human form but was a huge monster whenever he turned into Venom. They should have just bit the bullet and done that, but instead, we got a wimpy, scrawny looking Venom in addition to a wimpy, scrawny looking Eddie.
I think any implication that Pepper has a form of Extremis that works perfectly with no drawbacks would retroactively justify Killian's choices overmuch. The point of Extremis was that it was a violently unstable chemical cocktail that was actively killing the people who use it.
Suggesting that if Stark had just worked with Killian, they could make a perfect super-soldier serum with tons of benefits and zero drawbacks kind of makes Killian less of a bad guy. A version of Extremis that gives people total regeneration and has no dangerous elements whatsoever would change the world for the better.
edited 23rd Feb '16 10:39:35 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.The Centipede serum doesn't have regenerative properties. It just makes super-soldiers.
A perfected version of Killian's Extremis minus the explosive component would make Tony Stark the shittiest person in the entire world for not immediately mass-producing the cure for every illness and injury known to man.
edited 23rd Feb '16 10:41:59 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I'm pretty sure the fire-based superpowers were part of the same side effect that made people explode. The intent of Extremis was to regenerate limbs for combat veterans. People just got fiery hands because the Extremis was overheating.
Point is, if Tony was able to perfect Extremis and give Pepper a purified version that allows her to regenerate from any injury forever with no drawbacks or addictive componentsHey! , then him actively making the decision that it's better to let people with serious injuries die or lived out their lives crippled rather than heal all their injuries and also give them some neat superpowers makes him a really shitty superhero.
Extremis Pepper is cool, but she isn't worth the implication that Tony Stark is sitting on something that would save millions of lives and improve millions more just because he doesn't want to share. Especially since a cure for every injury imaginable is exactly the kind of thing he'd rather be building than weapons.
How do you explain to a man in a wheelchair that you can give him the ability to walk again but you won't because f*ck disabled veterans?
edited 23rd Feb '16 10:49:43 AM by TobiasDrake
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The problem with the Extremis was that it was instable and also made people aggressive. The version Garret used had no healing factor, otherwise Mike wouldn't be a cyborg now.
And who says that Tony or his company isn't looking into a non-dangerous version of it? Not everyone is so irresponsible to start experiments on humans without any prior preparations.
edited 23rd Feb '16 11:10:07 AM by Swanpride
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No, there weren't. Everyone who had fire powers in Iron Man 3 was at risk of exploding. That's what, "Can you regulate?" means: they're asking for assurance that the person can control themselves enough that their next dose won't end in Killian bullshitting another terrorist attack. Just because some characters didn't explode doesn't mean there wasn't a possibility that they could lose control and detonate.
Centipede used parts of Extremis in its cocktail and gave people super-strength, but those people couldn't regenerate and didn't have fire powers.
The hypothetical Extremis Pepper says that. If Tony has a perfected version of Extremis that gives Pepper all the benefits and none of the drawbacks, then the human experimentation would already be a glaring success. All he'd have to do is reproduce what he did to Pepper and boom: flawless Extremis ready to change the world.
edited 23rd Feb '16 11:14:12 AM by TobiasDrake
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Wasn't the Hypothetical Extremis Pepper question though that she retained some of the Extremis powers, but not all? So Tony was able to get rid of most of the Extremis, but not all of it.
edited 23rd Feb '16 11:17:10 AM by alliterator
True. Prior to Scorch's non-consensual contribution, Centipede was actually shittier than Extremis because it only gave you super strength but you still explode sometimes.
It was much less than the sum of its parts.
edited 23rd Feb '16 11:19:20 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Not if you ignore the multiple accounts of murder/attempted murder as well as using a fictional boogieman to dupe the U.S
Yeah, but all that was done to cover up the fact that Extremis subjects kept exploding. If Tony could tweak Extremis such that people stop exploding but still keep the regenerative powers, none of the conspiracies would have been necessary.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.But what can we expect from Hydra, amiright?
Yeah, it's better if Pepper shows up in the Rescue armor instead of keeping Extremis.
I was so angry when all the promotional stuff for IM 3 made the fact Pepper would wear a suit such a big deal when she only wears one for 1 minute and isn't the real focus of the scene at all.

Topher Grace is actually really good as the baddie in American Ultra, for what that's worth, and like with Eddie Brock he's a complete dweeb who's really just pissed people other than him get to do things. So I'm willing to chalk his performance in Spider-Man 3 up to the writing and directing.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.