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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#51826: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:43:05 PM

Yeah, Shaun Toub was Yinsen, not Stanley Tucci.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#51827: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:46:18 PM

and Powers Boothe?

Minor character in avengers. Big Bad / Arc Villain in Agents of Shield.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:47:29 PM by dantecito

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#51828: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:47:15 PM

The memory cheats then. My mistake. I coulda swore. OH well live and learn.

The Blog The Art
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#51829: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:48:15 PM

[up][up] Actually he's playing the same character there.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:48:31 PM by doineedaname

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51830: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:52:22 PM

Not counting the one-shots, we have two examples so far: The actor of Sousa was originally a police officer during the battle of New York, and the actress of Meredith Quill was originally a Captain America fan who got an autograph from him.

[up] He is actually the reason why I am against actor recycling, because until they specifically mentioned that he used to be on the council, I was unsure if that was a nice little link they put into the show or just another case of them using the same actor in different roles. It's confusing.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:54:02 PM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51831: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:54:06 PM

There's a scene description btw. Spoilers obviously:

Here’s the scene: An elevator opens in the op-center, and Steve Rogers and his friend Sam Wilson, a.k.a. Anthony Mackie’s Falcon, walk out – with a silent T’Challa (the public identity of Chadwick Boseman’s Black Panther) walking in front of them alongside the government attaché played by Martin Freeman. Scarlet Johansson’s Black Widow is with them, and she’s not saying anything either.

Something bad has gone down. Cap and Falcon were involved. It did not go well. They have handed over their vibranium shield and flying apparatus before being allowed access to this place. The pair look like they’re being sent to the principal’s office.

“You guys want to take a seat?” Widow says. “And try not to break anything while we fix this.”

Stark, who hasn’t yet had his beat-down, is on his cell phone with U.S. Secretary of State Thaddeus Ross (William Hurt) as Cap and Falcon step into the nerve center of the intelligence office. “No, Romania was not sanctioned by the accords … Col. Rhodes is supervising clean-up … Yes, there will be consequences …” Stark looks irritated, tired. “Obviously, you can quote me on that. I just said it.”

He hangs up, and beholds his Avengers.

“Consequences?” Cap says.

“Secretary Ross wanted you both prosecuted,” Iron Man answers. “I had to give him something.”

“I’m not getting that shield back, am I?” Cap says.

Black Widow walks ahead, joining Stark. “Technically it belongs to the government. Wings, too,” she says.

“That’s cold,” Falcon says.

Stark spins on his heel as the two walk away with T’Challa. He flashes a tight, unpleasant smile. “Warmer than jail!” he says.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:54:25 PM by comicwriter

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#51833: Feb 22nd 2016 at 3:13:20 PM

I think the biggest potential of "Ascended extra" is for Abby Ryder Fortson / Cassie Lang.

If the Marvel Cinematic Universe still remains in the 2026, and don't change the actress, then they could make a movie (or TV Serie) of the Young Avengers. (With Abby Ryder as Stature.)

edited 22nd Feb '16 3:13:53 PM by dantecito

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#51835: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:22:09 PM

Some things I wanted to ask:

1) Was Doctor Strange always American? Because I kinda pictured him as being British. (And no, it's not because of Benedict.)

2) Peter Capaldi as the Grandmaster. Yay or nay?

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51836: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:42:36 PM

1) Was Doctor Strange always American? Because I kinda pictured him as being British. (And no, it's not because of Benedict.)
Yes, he's always been American — he even lives in Greenwich Village. According to the Marvel wiki, he was born in Philadelphia, went to New York College, and then Columbia University for his medical degree.

2) Peter Capaldi as the Grandmaster. Yay or nay?
Hmmm. Maybe. Although I also pictured Capaldi as the Vulture.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#51837: Feb 22nd 2016 at 6:43:36 PM

Yes, he's always been American.

[nja]

edited 22nd Feb '16 6:43:53 PM by higherbrainpattern

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#51838: Feb 22nd 2016 at 7:06:31 PM

He could be a Brit in America for this version.

Everything I've heard about Civil War is not just exciting, but incredibly intriguing. I am liking that there's no universal audience consensus about who is 'right'. For a film like this, that's extremely necessary. I look forward to all the slap fighting lively debates that are sure to follow.

I wonder if Tony's 'It wasn't worth it' line will appear in a different context.

edited 22nd Feb '16 7:10:15 PM by edvedd

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#51839: Feb 22nd 2016 at 7:11:15 PM

I am excited for Civil War. I could easily see it being better or on par with Winter Soldier if done right, and it would basically cement the Captain America franchise as the crowning achievement of the MCU.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51841: Feb 22nd 2016 at 7:23:05 PM

I kinda hope Strange is British because while Cumberbatch is an amazing actor, his attempt at an American accent in Black Mass was hilarious.

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#51842: Feb 22nd 2016 at 7:30:55 PM

I'm not gonna lie, when I saw that picture that was recently posted, Cumberbatch kinda looks like Doctor Strange. I never thought he was bad for the role, just a typecasted and predictable choice. I hope the movie itself ends up being good.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51843: Feb 22nd 2016 at 8:44:37 PM

So according to the article, the main reason Widow sides against Cap is Bucky. She 100 percent thinks that he's too far gone and too dangerous, so she agrees with the side that thinks he needs to be taken down.

It's interesting because I'd never considered that but it actually makes complete sense to me as a motivation for her.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#51844: Feb 22nd 2016 at 8:52:59 PM

Well, considering the last time they met, it isn't really a bad reason to be suspicious of him, from her perspective.

And this does seem to be what it boils down to: perspective. Steve knows Bucky while no one else really does. Can you blame everyone else for only seeing a dangerous, probably unstable killer on the run from the law? There's a bit of myopia going on on both sides.

Shades of Gray.

edited 22nd Feb '16 9:01:27 PM by edvedd

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Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#51845: Feb 22nd 2016 at 9:08:12 PM

Fewer than fifty, one hopes.

edited 22nd Feb '16 9:08:21 PM by Eagal

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#51848: Feb 23rd 2016 at 12:38:27 AM

So according to the article, the main reason Widow sides against Cap is Bucky. She 100 percent thinks that he's too far gone and too dangerous, so she agrees with the side that thinks he needs to be taken down.

Remember the days before The Winter Soldier premiered when the Clint/Tasha shippers were declaring war because the movie surely would have Widow and Bucky date and now nobody cares.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#51850: Feb 23rd 2016 at 2:07:52 AM

Thought Cumberbatch as he normally looks was too Gonk for the Strange role, but the mustache and beard do actually make quite a difference.


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