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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#51801: Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:49:25 AM

Spider-Man's special relationship will be him trying to eat Ant-Man and Black Widow inexplicably trying to eat him.

The Falcon will eat all three of them, then Black Panther will eat the Falcon.

edited 22nd Feb '16 11:50:18 AM by Tuckerscreator

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51803: Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:56:57 AM

Critics praise the gritty realism for showing the psychological toll cannibalism takes on the human psyche.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#51804: Feb 22nd 2016 at 11:57:39 AM

Oh man the last one makes me super happy. The second to last point really interests me, because I figured it was going to be obvious to the Genre Savvy that Bucky was still heroic and that any moral ambiguity of his was purely Watsonian.

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edited 22nd Feb '16 12:05:24 PM by AlleyOop

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#51805: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:00:29 PM

The children in the theater, there because it's a PG-13 film nowadays, are scarred for life though, and the common audience is baffled at how much the Trailers Always Lie.

edited 22nd Feb '16 12:02:19 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51806: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:02:12 PM

[up][up]They also mention there's a scene where Bucky is apparently captured by Ross and subjected to a psyche evaluation. I'm guessing it goes very poorly.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#51807: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:02:28 PM

Does ant man shrink to get eaten, or does he get cut up?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#51808: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:14:55 PM

Notice they mentioned not having cast Captain Marvel yet. Don't those announcements usually come out two years ahead of the film release date?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51809: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:18:47 PM

I'm not sure? When did we find out about Cumberbatch.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51810: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:20:43 PM

December 2014 going by the wiki.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51811: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:32:03 PM

The Casting of Cumberbatch was announced a few weeks after Marvel had this big press conference in which it announced it big slate, and that they had cast Black Panther. December 2014 I think? Something along that line....

But we don't even have a director for Captain Marvel yet, and I somehow doubt that they will cast the role without input from a director.

Concerning the article: The first statement points into the direction what I have been saying for months, that Civil war won't cover the whole Civil war, but the START of it, leaving out heroes divided until Infinity War I. And them not working together might be reason why Thanos is able to collect the stones in the first place.

Also yeah for the last statement! I really look forward to spending the next years in a friendly discussion with other fans who is right!

I don't think that Cap will die. Everyone know what happens in the Comics but, well, exactly because everyone knows it he is actually the least likely candidate to die.

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#51812: Feb 22nd 2016 at 12:47:03 PM

If cap becomes nomad, that suggests Sam or Bucky could become Cap, and fans of either character will be pissed if the wrong character gets picked.

Bucky was a kinda shitty Cap in the comics anyway. The reason he more than happily gave the mantle back to Steve was because it conflicted with how he likes to operate. He's all about the deep-cover black ops style. He likes sneaking around and planting bombs and stuff.

He hates kicking in the front door wearing bright red and blue and demanding everybody's attention in his flashy garb. He can throw the shield real good, but being Captain America is fundamentally irreconcilable with his entire skillset, and the fact that he and the role are not good for each other was part of the point of that arc.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51813: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:00:03 PM

Bucky is the kind of guy who would rather go in from the top of the train and kill the target rather than fight through each car while the target prepares himself. IIRC Black Widow's recent solo comic(which was fairly meh aside from the art)had him suddenly show up during one of Nat's missions after the same target as her and together they have to escape while killing everyone in their way. Cap would've never done what they did that day in the snow.

edited 22nd Feb '16 1:01:44 PM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51814: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:05:35 PM

[up][up][up]If she's gonna appear in Infinity War Part 1 then we'll probably hear something later this year.

But we don't even have a director for Captain Marvel yet, and I somehow doubt that they will cast the role without input from a director.

Well, they cast Black Panther in 2014 and we just officially got Ryan Coogler as a director last month. And he wasn't even the first (or second) choice to make the movie.

edited 22nd Feb '16 1:06:59 PM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#51815: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:09:57 PM

Though that might've been because he was already due to appear in Civil War.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51816: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:37:06 PM

Well that's what I was getting at. It sounds like they might do the same thing they're doing with Black Panther by introducing Captain Marvel in a supporting role in another movie (Infinity War) before spinning her off into her own feature.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#51817: Feb 22nd 2016 at 1:41:58 PM

Oh, right. Guess her role in Infinity War probably isn't that big if the schedule of her film is this variable.

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#51818: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:05:05 PM

I wonder how old will be Carol Danvers. (And her rank)

Well, I think we'll know at the end of this year.

P.S.: Speaking of cast, in Thor: Ragnarok

My candidates for Enchantress would be: Natalie Dormer, Elena Satine, and Alice Eve.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:07:58 PM by dantecito

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#51819: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:11:28 PM

Natalie Dormer's already appeared in the MCU previously.

A shame, since it was a throwaway role of no real consequence.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51820: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:14:26 PM

Well, it wouldn't be the first time that they used an actor in a throw-away role in another role. But those were roles which were so removed from each other that there was no way that they could be the same character.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51821: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:17:37 PM

Unless people assumed Enchantress traveled back in time and Killed And Replaced some random army officer, I think it would be fine.

edited 22nd Feb '16 2:24:50 PM by comicwriter

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51822: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:20:59 PM

That's what he meant with Early-Bird Cameo. He's implying the foxy secretary in Captain America was Enchantress or somesuch.

For that matter, actors of minor roles returning in more major ones is not unheard of. For example, the guy who plays Melvin Potter in Daredevil previously played a minor role as a neo-nazi gangmember in the All Hail the King short.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51823: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:26:18 PM

I can't imagine why she'd be interested in that so it's probably not a big deal. Heck the only people who remember Dormer's cameo are internet commentators who love the Retroactive Recognition factor since she became famous a few years later.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#51824: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:34:07 PM

I'm more surprised actor recycling hasn't occurred more often. I mean they used Stanley Tucci to play the doctor that made Steve into a super soldier and the doctor that helped Tony build the Mark I in a CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS.

I was half expecting him to show up as an Asgardian mentor in a Thor movie who also dies.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51825: Feb 22nd 2016 at 2:36:43 PM

Are you referring to Ho Yinsen? If so, he was played by Shaun Toub, not Stanley Tucci.

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