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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Well Joss Whedon talked about that a bit and why he decided against having Coulson appear in Age of Ultron.
Making the movies connect to the other movies without getting into Continuity Lock-Out territory is a tough enough balancing act without also mentioning or incorporating running plotlines from the TV shows as well.
There's also the fact that the story progression in a TV show is much quicker than in a movie series, which means that it's hard for the two mediums to ever meet up.
I really can't see the situation changing that drastically even with Whedon gone. For instance, there's already so much stuff going on in Civil War that I really don't see them trying to fit in Team Coulson too.
edited 20th Feb '16 1:41:12 PM by comicwriter
I think there's a very good chance of it. They keep saying this is the entire Marvel Universe fighting Thanos and even though I don't think it's literal, there could be a ton of ways to work in appearances.
It doesn't even have to be a huge thing or them teaming up with the Avengers. Just show a montage of the heroes of Earth fighting Thanos' forces, and include some brief scenes showing Team Coulson and the Netflix heroes.
No they don't. But my point is that AOS has done so much with the Inhumans setting and plot-wise that having the Inhumans be a thing practically requires them either referring back to that plot in the movie or outright ignoring it.
Simply having them be a separate group from Jiaying's won't cut it for dealing with the issue.
edited 20th Feb '16 2:00:05 PM by KnownUnknown
Pretty much do it like the Series 4 finale to Doctor Who where you had everyone from Torchwood and the Sarah Jane Adventures helping out in fighting a Dalek invasion.
Also, does anyone have a link to that Marvel supercut posted a few pages back?
edited 20th Feb '16 2:07:23 PM by AdricDePsycho
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?There are ways that could introduce the characters of TV in The movies.
- Kingpin as villain of Spiderman
- Alternatively: Punisher as Villain of Spiderman.
- Daredevil as Mentor of Spiderman.
- Alternatively: Luke Cage, jessica or Iron Fist.
- Matt Murdock and Foggy as lawyers of some hero.
- Lorelei as subordinate (and girlfriend) of Loki.
- Alternatively: Lorelei as subordinate of Enchantress.
- Alternatively (II): Composite Character
- Blizzard, Graviton and Absorbing Man as subordinates of Zemo.
It really wouldn't. They don't even really need to explain where he's been, just say there was more to his death than they knew. No different from (presumably) not needing to watch Ant-Man to understand why he's in Civil War, just another secret Nick Fury kept, but something that someone who's watched everything will appreciate.
He better watch out for Stark.
EDIT: The war continues
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edited 20th Feb '16 4:54:47 PM by Tuckerscreator
The problem with Coulson showing up in the films is there is no good way to deal with Tony, Steve, Thor, Natasha, and Bruce finding out that Coulson is alive in such a way that it doesn't threaten to either overtake whatever else is going on or feel comically inadequate. Certainly if folks aren't paying attention to the show it's going to feel weird.
edited 20th Feb '16 6:02:23 PM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.It shouldn't be that hard to acknowledge Inhumans in Civil War. Say, when the Accords get introduced, Ross mentions a spike in people displaying powers as one of the many reasons for such a law to have to exist. No need to go into great detail about the events of Ao S, just enough that it's clear to Ao S viewers watching the movie what they're referring to.
Wasn't Fury faking his death a whole plot point that was fully explained within in the movie itself? It's not like they blew it off with a joke.
edited 20th Feb '16 6:26:14 PM by KnownUnknown
That's because Marvel expects moviegoers to have watched the other movies - the Avengers movies especially are treated like sequels to the other films as a whole, and are full of plot holes that require watching other movies to understand.
They've noted several times before that they don't extend the same expectation to the television shows, as the shared viewer base between those mediums is much smaller.
But even outside of that, if you were only following Iron Man in that sense then there wouldn't be any idea that Nick Fury was dead in the first place, and the only line that wouldn't make sense is Fury bringing the Helicarrier "out of mothballs."
edited 20th Feb '16 6:31:46 PM by KnownUnknown
OK then, point taken, but what I'm saying is all they'd have to do in regards to Coulson coming back in the movies is having them ask "wait, weren't you dead?", and him saying "I was, I came back, I did a bunch of things, had some adventures, but isn't their, I don't know, a genocidal alien warlord from Titan that's about to kill you and the rest of the universe to appease the personification of death itself?" and then carry on from there if they put him in Infinity War.
Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?

It might improve now that some of the writers have shuffled. Whedon was the one who insisted on never showing Coulson alive in the films, and he's the most obvious one to get a brief cameo.
The Inhumans movie will be the real test, I think. None of the Inhumans from the show need to appear, but unless the movie has no connection to Earth at all, someone should at least say "We've known about Inhumans for a few years now, but not this group."
edited 20th Feb '16 1:40:34 PM by Discar
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