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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Plus, is there any reason we should assume the promotional material meant to be a direct lead-in to the movie is lying? That kind of defeats the purpose of the material, doesn't it? We've got enough information that we can reasonably puece together how the movie starts without much need for debate. This is silly.
I also don't think the movie is just going to start on a giant battle. I think it's going to start somewhere else and then cut to that battle. Because, again, we can't predict anything yet on this movie. Hell, we don't know who a lot of the actors are playing.
edited 19th Feb '16 3:19:28 PM by alliterator
No, they've cut smaller sequences that really didn't effect anything in the grand scheme of the film, like the Loki cameo in Age of Ultron or the Missing Trailer Scene from Iron Man 2. If it's ever anything seriously significant to the plot, they usually replace it with something else, such as the original Norn scene in AOU getting swapped out for the similar scene where Thor has a vision of the Infinity Stones.
They are not gonna scrap an entire massive battle between the Avengers and Crossbones.
Whether or not the fight is literally frame one of the movie is irrelevant. The fight is gonna happen at the beginning of the film and is thus likely where the huge inciting event happens.
edited 19th Feb '16 3:24:31 PM by comicwriter
edited 19th Feb '16 3:28:07 PM by alliterator
No, I know it because I have the set photos and leaked footage to go off. A fight involving Cap vs. Crossbones, Falcon flying around fighting enemy soldiers, Black Widow racing through the streets on a motorcycle, and Scarlet Witch fighting Crossbones' men is likely to be very big, yes, and unlikely to be dropped.
At this point it just seems like you're arguing for the sake of being contrary.
I know because it's common sense. They're trying to stop a terrorist attack. Crossbones is hellbent on making the Avengers suffer no matter what. We know something big happens that breaks the camel's back and gets the governments of the world to try to control the Avengers.
It's really unlikely they have a huge opening fight scene and then had the inciting incident be something completely unrelated.
edited 19th Feb '16 3:34:47 PM by comicwriter
So they shot a whole fake opening fight scene and then screened it for the fans, leaked it, and had Marvel write a tie-in comic setting it up just for the hell of it?
Got it. Those geniuses.
edited 19th Feb '16 3:53:30 PM by comicwriter
My brain still keeps confusing Ultron with Saren from Mass Effect. It's the shape.
Edit: The only time the TV show is mentioned in connection to the movies it's in the ads for the movies or by fans of the show. I still find it funny that Marvel apparently told the cast that when the time came for the Inhumans movie they likely wouldn't even be mentioned despite how much they've built the inhumans up.
edited 19th Feb '16 4:51:50 PM by LordofLore
Marvel has to work on the assumption that not everybody who sees the movie is going to have seen the shows
If they make the MCU a complicated continuity cluster between Netflix, movies, and television, why it would be a mess.
A comic bookish mess.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI imagine the films will make references and name drops and shout outs and maybe even small camros in reference to the shows, but certainly nothing plot affecting will require knowledge of the events of the shows.
But that's fine, comic book shared universes work best where simultaneous books add context to each other, not rely on each other.
I don't think it should be so heavily interwened, but I wouldn't have an issue with some acknowledgement of the shows in the movies. The return of Phil Coulson to the movies for example is long, long overdue.
Civil War is here, I feel sad Coulson won't even show up for the final battle. As basically the member who literally died to form the Avengers, he should have more stake in their split than anyone else, but he won't be able to interact with his fellow Avengers on this issue, which is just depressing.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."I imagine he'll watch a news report at the beginning of an episode and just sigh
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI mean, the show will likely find a way to put Coulson in the context of the civil war, but I feel it'd be a lot more ripe for dramatic potential to see him actually interacting with his fellow Avengers and SHIELD agents on the issue.
Whose side is he even on?
"All you Fascists bound to lose."

But that doesn't mean it's going to be the very first scene. Or that they won't cut it.