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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#51351: Feb 11th 2016 at 7:47:22 PM

So, basically a movie where Lois Lane is the main character, and then becomes a superhero?

...That was kind of what Carol was like at the start, right?

edited 11th Feb '16 7:47:55 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51352: Feb 11th 2016 at 10:34:23 PM

Pretty much, aside from the fact that Mar-Vell was never interested in her romantically (he had a wife).

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51353: Feb 12th 2016 at 4:22:45 AM

I just got a giant shock when I read the news "Start of Civil war in Germany moved". I was already all "Damn, I don't want to wait"....but they moved it forward! We now get it a week earlier than the US, closer to my birthday.

Best news ever!

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51354: Feb 12th 2016 at 4:29:07 AM

Mar-Vell was never interested in her(he saw her as one of his greatest friends along with his later friend Rick Jones)but Carol is implied to have some feelings for him that she buries. She ends up kissing him once or twice before his death.

Mar-Vell's two loves are Una(who ends up dying due to Yon-Rogg) and Elysius of Titan.

edited 12th Feb '16 4:31:36 AM by LordofLore

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51355: Feb 12th 2016 at 4:33:13 AM

[up]That is another aspect which they should better skip in the movie....I have in general a very low opinion of people who would make a move on other people who are happily married.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51356: Feb 12th 2016 at 4:44:26 AM

IIRC she only does it because she has no idea about his personal situation. And Mar never gets married. Una is pretty much his fiance before her death and Mar dies before he can marry Elysius.

edited 12th Feb '16 4:50:27 AM by LordofLore

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51357: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:57:48 AM

Didn't Ultimate Mar-Vell basically have a henshin watch? Just do that. He's this weird alien power ranger with a transformation watch activated by "pure will" or "inner strength" or something. He and Carol are saving people during an alien attack, he dies, she gets the watch and it does weird stuff to her biology, but she becomes the power ranger.

edited 12th Feb '16 7:58:37 AM by Zeromaeus

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51358: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:05:10 AM

[up] The reason Ultimate Mar-Vell (who was actually named Geheneris Hala'son Mahr Vehl) had the watch was because he had surgery in order to look human - the Kree were way more fishlike in the Ultimate Universe (well, at the time) and there were no pink-skinned Kree. The watch basically turned him into his blue-skinned version with power armor.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#51360: Feb 12th 2016 at 10:42:08 AM

He was basically Captain Marvel for a while.

Uh. Fawcett one.

He would clang his pretty bracelets together and transform to Rick Jones or vice versa.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51361: Feb 12th 2016 at 10:47:46 AM

Actually, during that period of his life he switched places with Rick(but yes he was pretty much like DC's).

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51362: Feb 12th 2016 at 11:20:09 AM

Later, the concept was revisited with Chris Powell, aka Darkhawk.

Except instead of switching places with Rick Jones, he switched places with an evil ancient bird robot. Which is so many steps up.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#51363: Feb 12th 2016 at 11:22:17 AM

Wait, that's what Darkhawk is?

I only know the character from Avengers Arena, the obnoxious Hunger Games ripoff that killed off a bunch of teenage characters for shock value and pissed off the fanbase because everyone knows C- and D-listers don't get brought back.

edited 12th Feb '16 11:22:41 AM by TobiasDrake

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51364: Feb 12th 2016 at 11:25:09 AM

Yeah, Avengers Arena got Darkhawk like super wrong.

No surprise since Hopeless didn't give a shit and just needed fodder. Not that I'm still immensely, hyperbolically bitter.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51365: Feb 12th 2016 at 11:31:03 AM

• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 starts filming in Atlanta on Thursday early in the morning.

• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 is not focusing on an Infinity Stone.

• Tyler Bates is returning to score, with Gunn stating it may be his best music/song yet.

• Gunn confirms Benicio Del Toro is not returning as The Collector.

• Gunn says Al Pacino is not playing/voicing Ego The Living Planet (fans campaigned Gunn for that; Pacino speculated to be playing The Grandmaster).

• No Supernova for Vol. 2.

• Nova is not in Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2.

• Gunn talked how there is more of Michael Rooker's Yondu and Karen Gillan's Nebula (both are rumored/speculated to join the Guardians team).

• Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 will feature more of Kraglin, played by Gunn's brother, Sean Gunn, who also provides motion reference for Rocket Raccoon on set (Gunn stressed his brother was not a sit-in for Rocket, but rather a motion-reference as they record Sean Gunn's movements and facial reactions, etc.).

• Marvel has a lot to do with Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2; they are the producers on the movie; Gunn respects their opinions a lot.

• Ronan will not be featured in the Guardians of the Galaxy sequel.

• James Gunn confirms a new female cast member for the Guardians of the Galaxy team and says she was the easiest to cast: "...most awesome and easiest person I've ever had to cast and blew me the fuck away. Really. She is amazing, and I can't wait to share her with the world." (Mantis is rumored to have joined the team played by Pom Klementieff, but it's unclear if that is who Gunn is referring to).

• A fan asked Gunn to say "Adam Warlock," which Gunn did (and that was all he said).

• Gunn said he isn't sure if he will direct Guardians of the Galaxy 3 (takes one movie at a time, has a lot of offers for other stuff, etc.).

• Nope. Beta Ray Bill wasn't in the Collector's collection in the first movie.

• Peter Quill doesn't go to the Negative Zone when the Infinity Stone almost kills him (Marvel doesn't own the Negative Zone, Fox does).

• Gunn also confirms one of the older Guardians of the Galaxy scripts mentioned Negative Zone, but they couldn't use it because Fox owns it.

• Gunn confirms they are not telling Spider-Man's orign story again.

• Gunn is also asked about rivalries between DC and Marvel, in which he also talks about different studios owning different Marvel characters and mentions how Marvel TV and Marvel Studios are different: "There is Marvel TV who is pretty disconnected from Marvel Film, which is owned by Disney, and that's really not connected at all."

• Gunn also said he is looking forward to seeing Deadpool, Batman Vs. Superman and especially Bryan Singer's X-Men: Apcolypse.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#51366: Feb 12th 2016 at 11:36:50 AM

Nope. Beta Ray Bill wasn't in the Collector's collection in the first movie.
Was that...was that something that was ever speculated? I don't remember hearing about this.

Gunn says Al Pacino is not playing/voicing Ego The Living Planet (fans campaigned Gunn for that; Pacino speculated to be playing The Grandmaster).
wait al pacino's definitely in the film

what

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
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#51367: Feb 12th 2016 at 12:29:19 PM

Gunn confirms they are not telling Spider-Man's orign story again.

This cracked me up.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51368: Feb 12th 2016 at 2:21:13 PM

I really hope Mantis isn't the only all new female(or male) character to join the team(also Nebula on the team is just What).

edited 12th Feb '16 2:54:18 PM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51369: Feb 12th 2016 at 2:56:14 PM

Gunn already said he's not adding very many new people to the team. That way lies madness.

Focus on fleshing out your existing cast.

edited 12th Feb '16 3:09:26 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#51370: Feb 12th 2016 at 4:44:30 PM

As he should. Nothing annoys me more than a franchise which builds up characters and then discards them for different characters in the sequel. I want to know who Quill's father is and more about Gamora and Nebula.

And I hope that Groot starts out as baby or at least little Groot.

Mmmmm...normally I wait until I can rail a couple of friends together, but I am now thinking of going to Civil War on opening day, no matter what. And springing for the best seat in my favourite theatre....who knows, perhaps there is even a Wednesday night screening.....

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51371: Feb 12th 2016 at 5:35:41 PM

Groot being small for most of the movie would be fine with me. Especially if Rocket uses a nutrient bomb on him like in the Groot miniseries later on. That was neat.

On Mahr Vel, Ultimate Mar-Vell: I looked it up. He had a cybernetic suit implanted into him that turned him into a henshin hero. That he was also Kree was almost irrelevant. You could totally justify transferring that to Danvers. Just use words like "liquid metal" or "nanotech" enough and anything works.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51372: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:13:10 PM

I kinda like her origin in the comics, though, getting her powers from a wishing machine - when it explodes, all she is wishing for is to be strong enough to survive, which transfer Mar-Vell's powers to hers.

Although I'd like the movie to start off with the explosion and her getting powers and then flash back to How We Got Here. I think that would be a different way to begin a Marvel movie.

FoxBoxKid Philosophy Enthusiast from California Republic Since: Oct, 2013
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#51373: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:15:54 PM

Who do y'all think is gonna be the villain in Guardians 2? I'm hoping it's Magus and the Universal Church of Truth.

Make mine Marvel.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#51374: Feb 12th 2016 at 7:17:28 PM

Not going to lie.

having the movie start with carol exploding would be funny.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#51375: Feb 12th 2016 at 8:02:34 PM

Iron Man kinda started with Tony Stark exploding.

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