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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

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#51226: Feb 9th 2016 at 6:24:56 PM

The MCU Mob War could be a multi-episode event on Defenders with Spider-Man guest-starring.

edited 9th Feb '16 6:25:35 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#51227: Feb 9th 2016 at 7:11:01 PM

I think of the MCU Mob War would be a kind of multi-medium event. Kinda like the fall of SHIELD in Winter Soldier. It'd presumably happen in the third spider-man movie and be vastly expanded in the Defenders and other urbane hero stories.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#51228: Feb 9th 2016 at 9:40:31 PM

Before checking this thread, I never realized before how much I want to see a Spider-Man movie about a gang war. Mobsters were such a staple of the Stan Lee-era Spider-Man comics (the Enforcers, Silvermane, Hammerhead, even Doc Ock and the Green Goblin), and it'd be nice to see the next movie go back to that version of the wallcrawler after Webb's more Ultimate Marvel-inspired take.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51229: Feb 9th 2016 at 10:13:37 PM

By the way, guys, Silvermane's son, Joseph Manfredi, just appeared in Agent Carter. Unless they want to change it around so that Silvermane is Joseph's son instead, in which case we might be able to get Silvermane in the modern day.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#51230: Feb 10th 2016 at 3:07:01 AM

With all this talk of silver, now I want Silver Sable to show up.tongue

dantecito Since: Dec, 2014
#51231: Feb 10th 2016 at 5:31:12 AM

I imagine that the first serie of the defenders will be The hand and Serpent Society.

So that the mob war, would be for a second series.

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#51232: Feb 10th 2016 at 8:25:33 AM

I want to see Spider-Man fighting organized crime too. That's a big focus for the character: Spider-Man literally fights crime. I know it's weird to make that distinction but most superheroes have fighting crime as an afterthought. Iron Man fights international espionage and warlords. Captain America fights terror syndicates. Thor fights eldritch beings from beyond the stars.

But for Spider-Man, many of the wild and colorful characters that make up his rogues gallery came about in the course of fighting crime.

The Sensational cartoon really got that and made actual crime-fighting a central part of the show.

edited 10th Feb '16 8:27:38 AM by TobiasDrake

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#51233: Feb 10th 2016 at 8:39:59 AM

Yeah, that's kind of a point of Spider-Man: he's a street-level superhero who spends more time fighting regular crime than world-wide threats or aliens (though he does get to fight these as well due to being one of the most powerful street-level heroes). This is in part why the way they changed him into a SHIELD agent in USM didn't work.

Problem is, this particular area is already covered by the Netflix series...

edited 10th Feb '16 8:40:42 AM by Theokal3

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51234: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:16:47 AM

I just wish we could get to the point where Spiderman shows up in every movie for a while. It just seems like Spiderman is the go-to crossover guy in the comics. If that could be represented, even just a little bit, in the movies, I would be very happy all around.

[up]Solution: Spiderman, Daredevil, Iron Fist and Luke Cage are on a team. They fight crime. Jessica Jones investigates said crime.

edited 10th Feb '16 10:18:24 AM by Zeromaeus

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51236: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:29:32 AM

[up] It actually would have terrible implications, especially since Jessica has actual super strength, as opposed to Matt Murdock, who doesn't.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51237: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:30:37 AM

Jessica Jones put super heroing behind her. Its not her bag. She'd fight crime, but not in the "costumed duel in the streets" kind of way.

edited 10th Feb '16 10:32:41 AM by Zeromaeus

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51238: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:31:58 AM

Which is why she doesn't wear a mask. But she still helps people. And that often involves beating people up.

edited 10th Feb '16 10:32:07 AM by alliterator

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51239: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:33:29 AM

Well, yeah. She's both the brains and muscle of her one person investigative duo.

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#51240: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:34:07 AM

It actually would have terrible implications, especially since Jessica has actual super strength, as opposed to Matt Murdock, who doesn't.

I'm aware. That's my point.

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#51242: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:43:45 AM

Bad news, but it looks like Hayley Atwell has been cast in a new show, which several sites are now reporting means Agent Carter isn't likely to return.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#51243: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:44:46 AM

Shame for people that liked Agent Carter.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#51244: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:46:56 AM

To be clear: it's just a pilot, which means the show hasn't been ordered yet. And Agent Carter could still be renewed and Hayley could technically do both, since AC has a short season, but she would have to work it around her schedule.

So it's not a sure thing, but AC hasn't really been doing well (or good or even okay) in the ratings. Season 2 was a miracle, so I'm not sure we'll get a Season 3.

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#51245: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:47:16 AM

As I said over on the AC thread, a second season was already a miracle, and a first season completely unexpected, so I'm grateful for what we've gotten.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#51246: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:52:40 AM

Eh. I just wanted to push all of the Defenders in there without thinking about it. I do feel Jessica Jones is a character that mostly shines when she's doing her own thing., though.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#51247: Feb 10th 2016 at 11:00:53 AM

James Gunn reiterates that Thanos isn't in Guardians 2, and says the Infinity Stones "aren't really a thing" in this one.

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#51248: Feb 10th 2016 at 11:12:38 AM

[up] Am I the only one who gets the sense that Gunn wants to distance himself from the greater MCU arc as much as possible? Didn't he think anyone from Got G (I mean, Thanos aside, obviously) wouldn't be showing up in Infinity War or did I imagine that?

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#51249: Feb 10th 2016 at 11:15:02 AM

I think it's entirely reasonable for the Infinity Gems not to show up in Guardians 2. Gunn did a movie revolving around a Gem, now he wants to do a different movie.

In the MCU, the Gems are an Avengers plotline first and foremost. There's only two Gems left; let someone else introduce them.

edited 10th Feb '16 11:15:27 AM by TobiasDrake

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#51250: Feb 10th 2016 at 11:18:37 AM

Civil War chronological trailer.


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